Boss kill times last night from one guild
5 seconds
17 seconds
19 seconds
20 seconds
21 seconds
14 seconds
41 seconds
43 seconds
Why this game didnt buff boss damage by 2-3x while also nerfing warriors into the dirt… i will never understand.
Just get us to TBC at this point… this game is dumb and over. Announce AQ coming 6/1 who cares.
Are you asking for nerfs in the solved game that everyone knew would be like this? We have done this content over 100 times. If you didn’t play on pservers maybe just once for y’all, but like we saw it before why did u think it would change? SoD is the version that offered change and majority of y’all didn’t want to go because they’re was to much changes. Classic Andy’s are silly
Just let them enjoy these kill times with all these warriors, TBC is a rude awakening for those people.
TBC is the exact same with locks and hunters. Nothing changes. Although TBC items look cooler and more specs are “viable”
No consumes No world buffs. Watch those timers get longer
Not really. We’ve already done tbc. Twice. It was easy. It’ll still be easy.
Literally impossible to kill Razergore in 5 seconds. It takes like 5 seconds per egg and there are 30 eggs.
His timer starts when he’s active not during afk egg phase lmao.
According to what? Warcraftlogs? That’s just some arbitrary decision made by a 3rd party. Everyone knows the meat of the fight is breaking the eggs. Everyone knows Razergore drops fast once the eggs are destroyed. This has been well known since 2006.
What the OP should have said is “I personally don’t like vanilla and I would like to play TBC.” That’s what he really means.
Wcl is endorsed by blizzard used by blizzard for balance changes. Not that classic gets any. I’m sure you think vael’s rp is part of the fight too XD. Classic era player. Don’t you have to mess up basic naxx Mechanics that have been out since 2006 it is Tuesday reset day.
Spending 500G on consumes to kill a boss in <30 seconds must be super-hella fun times.
That’s nice. Still an arbitrary 3rd party decision. It doesn’t align with reality. The reality is that the Razergore encounter is all about the egg breaking phase. It’s an easy boss, but if you wipe it’s during that phase. It’s the same for Gothik in Naxx. If you get to the part where Gothik comes out you’ve basically already beat the boss. The outcome of those encounters are determined by phase 1 99% of the time.
This may shock you but there isn’t a hard fight in any version of Classic wow so far
Players enjoy efficiently beating the crap out of content and collecting loot… Why stop that?
Lol. There is nothing efficient about it.
The amount of time and prep involved in doing this is well beyond efficient
Then find a likeminded group of people that want to raid without consumes and wbuffs
Five. Seconds. 
And you guys call me crazy for saying no WBs in raids
Making the exact same mechanicless fight 30 seconds instead of 5 doesn’t make it more fun.
Also without worldbuffs the fight only takes 24 seconds, not 30 just checked.
How could there be? Someone else did all the hard work of figuring it out for you years ago.
Some would say that many encounters weren’t hard to begin with. A lot of stuff was cleared in original WotLK in a maximum iLevel of 215 (“Heroic Blues”) to prove a point.
Hard is relative though. Hard for who? Most of the guilds raiding in Anniversary don’t have clear times of anything in less than 30 minutes and they don’t have a single boss kill that is under 30 seconds. Many guilds are not 8/8 in BWL yet. Few guilds will have AQ40 and Naxx on farm when TBC goes live.
Explanation of why they didn’t do that above. If they had you would have the 1% still speed clearing stuff and everyone else hard stuck on “progression”. Most people who raid don’t want it to be hard, they want to parse and they want loot. The people who want hard are the minority and they are on retail.
Warriors doing that much damage is not “Vanilla”-like. Combat Rogues were the bulk of the melee for most of Vanilla. You didn’t raid as a DPS Warrior, you went as an OT that did respectable damage when not tanking. The Classic team chose a patch where DPS Warriors are at their best and that’s just how it is. Asking for balance on a re-re-release of Classic seems like a waste of time, but I would agree that DPS Warriors could be brought down a couple pegs and still be fine.
Yeah except most of the strats being used on more mechanically intense fights are different this time around.
This also is a meme since despite guilds like method developing strats to clear mythic bosses and making them public only a very small minority of guilds full clear mythic. By your logic almost everyone should be able to do it.
Yeah everyone would say this.
Obviously, i’ve seen people on this forum swear that Vashj and TK are insanely hard raids comparable to Cata or MoP encounters.