Rant: You killed M+ and the rest of this expansion

[Nassiral-wyrmrest-accord]

Actually that is not true. There has been several articles out there about how Remix keystones are getting more play than regular ones.

[Anvilshield-sisters-of-elune]

The absolute audacity of giving 5 million gamers the opportunity to do something different at the end of an expansion. The monsters.

[Adroi-tichondrius]

It wasn’t the end of the expansion. Manaforge had not even been out for 8 weeks.

[Myzrym-area-52]

@Anvilshield-sisters-of-elune

The absolute audacity of giving 5 million gamers the opportunity to do something different at the end of an expansion

Without remix there would be no option for people to do something else right now?

Remix is glorified legacy content. I can go faceroll Legion on retail if I want for roughly the same experience.

[Anvilshield-sisters-of-elune]

I mean, technically, that was the final raid. But at the rate, everybody seems to consume content. Everybody was done in a matter of days. So now they have 3 1/2 months with something else to do before midnight launches on March 9.

[Anvilshield-sisters-of-elune]

people have plenty of options. They can continue to run mythic on alts, they can create new characters, they can chase down achievements they were missing, they can go after mount’s pets and appearances, or they can check out the PTR. I mean, that was the whole reason for turbo mode. there’s plenty to do, but those who were already done with. It have moved onto remix to enjoy something different for a while. The only problem you run into is remix is more popular than classic because even though people were popping over to play classic, they were still coming back to retail. Now that people are playing remix and doing +50 solo they don’t really see a need to come back to retail until midnight.

[Myzrym-area-52]

I think remix’s main appeal is that it’s not retail and a lot of people don’t want to voice it but they don’t enjoy retail.

Which is why remix killed a season that was only a few months old. It’s a pretty bad season with a poor raid and repeat dungeons in the M+ pool though, so that’s not entirely surprising.

[Toshindo-shadow-council]

@Kennie-malganis

Why farm vers in remix when they could push high keys (13s)

Why struggle to find groups to push keys when super fun and easy and OP LEMIX is available? I mean, it seems obvious. Folks want to have fun. Being OP is fun. Running around blowing things up is fun. Grinding isn’t.

[Anvilshield-sisters-of-elune]

I mean, if we are brutally honest, this expansion started out with a bang and ended with a fizzle. There’s been far less participation, even at the beginning of season three then there was during season one. Even compared to DF season four which was through the roof. Hopefully midnight corrects some of the lack lesser moments that we experienced in this expansion and the entire 18 months is enjoyable. I’m just glad that we have options. Used to be it was 10 to 16 months of content drought at the end of an expansion and we had to sit around and twiddle our thumbs.

[Cayna-hyjal]

@Adroi-tichondrius

Whoever is managing the release schedule for this game is doing

A great job! I love never running out of things to do.

[Kennie-malganis]

@Myzrym-area-52

I mean don’t we have data showing the massive drop off in keys literally the day that remix released?

Vault keys aren’t push keys

[Toshindo-shadow-council]

@Adroi-tichondrius

Exactly. I just had to look it up, but yep… Just shy of 8 weeks. Most players only had a half a set of gear at best. I was still seeing realm first achievements. I can’t imagine anyone defending this launch schedule.

The vast majority of players aren’t looking to max out mythic 4 pc, and do AOTC, or “pick a grind”. They are just having fun. And most of the fun in the latest season was accomplished by the time LEMIX came out. And for the vast majority of players, not being able to get anything for the turbo boost from LFR made the decision that much easier. Why even bother for gear that won’t even be functional in the next expansion when they can just do LEMIX instead.

[Myzrym-area-52]

@Anvilshield-sisters-of-elune

Even compared to DF season four which was through the roof.

Which is funny because DF S4 had MoP Remix competing with it and was nothing but rehashed content from S1-S3 lol.

But Legion Remix has killed an actual non-meme season because the season is just THAT bad.

[Petersen-atiesh]

@Adroi-tichondrius

Filling groups even during peak times has become difficult.

What are you talking about? I saw M+ groups filling quite easily all lastnight.

[Zitaska-aerie-peak]

@Myzrym-area-52

poor raid

Dungeons being bad I can get, but raid is poor?

[Illidonkey-malganis]

Wait until you find out the amount of keys decreases as the season goes on regardless of what content gets released

[Kennie-malganis]

@Toshindo-shadow-council

Folks want to have fun. Being OP is fun. Running around blowing things up is fun. Grinding isn’t.

Remix is just grinding vers though

It’s just easy grinding vs stuff you can’t fail at vs push keys which are easy to fail at

[Toshindo-shadow-council]

@Adroi-tichondrius

It wasn’t the end of the expansion. Manaforge had not even been out for 8 weeks.

might not have been the end of the season, but we are definitely at the end of the expansion.

[Kennie-malganis]

@Adroi-tichondrius

It wasn’t the end of the expansion

it is end of expac though

most people have wrapped up whatever it is they were gonna do

[Myzrym-area-52]

@Zitaska-aerie-peak

but raid is poor?

Yeah I dislike this one the most out of the expansion’s three and I did not like LoU either, so that’s saying a bit. Less to do with mechs and more to do with the color palette giving me a headache. So some of it is just me issues but overall I don’t think it’s an interesting raid mechanically either.