I’m wondering if anyone is willing to speculate how much the weekly honor is being inflated by bots? If every bot currently active in your pvp pool was removed, how much of a shift in required honor do you think would occur the following week(s)?
0, we have no bots occupying our top brackets.
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what he said. can blame bots all you want, but they cant compete with players.
I kinda doubt this since i know for a fact that one of my servers top rankers is 100% using a bot and he has admitted it to me.
That and the videos of HIGH ranks getting DK screwed by players who caught them - and took them from R10-13 to rank 3-4.
Theres a night and day difference in the top of alliance brackets and hordes brackets
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Ever notice how all of those videos are of HORDE players? Our ranking works differently than the hordes.
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Its mathematically not possible to bot top brackets on Alliance.
Edit : Its not some “faction pride” thing or other petty bullcrap. Alliance pugs are just nearly unplayable so they’re incredibly inefficient to play in, even if you do it 24/7 you’ll never come close to what rankers do in term of honor.
Ah i assumed the bot plague screwed us both - im actually relieved to hear that its only on one side that this hurts. Its bad enough we have to deal with it.
Really?
A bot can possibly make 6k an honor which equals 1m honor a week that on low end.
Now most botters are high ranks doing premades as well.
So, they do premade for possibly 3 to 6hrs every now and then.
Possibly reach 2m honor for the week.
Top 100 I would say possibly 25 to 50 percent have some sort of botting/account sharing what that means or have done it at some point . Well premades that don’t bot to reach top rank would only need 500k to 600k that’s with no bots.
Or even less. It would actually make ranking slightly easier or less of a grind.
Average player that actually plays regular games a lot averages in about 200k to 500k(the 500k is playing about 10hrs in av none stop). They usually would place in 100 below standing the more bots that stand will go from 100 to 200.
Meh what do I know. /shrug
PLEASE get a screen shot, I would so enjoy that.
Not much it seems.
You’re shamelessly pulling #'s out your crack… and for what reason?
Why do you need to lie like you’re an expert on the ins-and-outs of the High Ranking Alliance AV scene? are you bored?
Bots exist on Alliance, they just hurt the lower honor earners more than the top honor earners.
Yes, really. I consistently do 1m in 3 days.
https://i.gyazo.com/87ab403c1ef2f39d0b2163840c1f4d57.png
A bot playing 24/7 could never beat me.
Proof?
Account sharing seems more likely to me than botting. You can continue to play with premades when you account share, but a bot couldn’t possibly queue with a premade team.
As for using bots as supplementary honor gains, that might make up the difference between good and bad premades, but ultimately they’re having to bot to keep up with people who aren’t botting.
So in reality, the answer to the question:
… is not at all, on Alliance. The honor is being inflated by non-bots.
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Not true. They make it way harder for the normal players, like myself trying to get rank 10 while working full time, for example. It’s affecting horde more because we can’t premade AV.
They may not necessarily be in bracket 14 (although I’ve heard otherwise) they’re high enough that it’s screwing it up for people who can’t play 100+ hours a week. They’re taking up spots in the mid-high brackets that players would normally fill.
Even if they’re not the most efficient, bots can play 24/7. There’s no way I could keep up with one, playing my most efficiently in my free time, after working 40 hours a week. I will still get rank 10, but it’s going to take more weeks of grinding, which is a massive consequence to the average semi-hardcore player.
This week I’ve gotten 400k honor, and I’m projected to be around the top of bracket 10 on my server. That seems insane to me.
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That’s just it, though. If they’re not in the top bracket, then they aren’t the ones inflating the honor.
They’re not inflating the lower brackets; they’re just taking limited spots. That’s not to say it’s okay, mind you, but the problem they cause is different.
it makes it more difficult for hard working players to get into the higher brackets
Yep, but not because they raised the honor you need. There are non-bots above them. Take out the bots, and the honor you need is still the same.
Perhaps it’s different for Horde, since some Horde are reporting that the top bracket spots are filled by bots.
I wouldn’t be complaining if the bots were in the lower brackets. I would crush them easily and they would inflate the pool, making it easier for anyone ranking above them. But that’s not what bots do, and if they were only able to achieve that, nobody would use them.
The problem is, on Horde side, they’re playing 24/7 in the same pug AV’s as all the players are (because that’s the only viable option). They’re taking up the spots above me, denying me the ability to get into the bracket, or slightly higher relative standing that I probably deserve.
It’d have to be a considerable number of bots for that to be the case, but yeah, that’s probably true to some extent.
It’s not a ton of them, but even if it’s 10 out of 1000, over 10 weeks of honor farming, with a small percentage less RP per week, that’s probably going to add an extra week at least to reach my goal. It could be even more. But holy crap, a week of extra farming? That’s 60-80 hours of my time. How is that remotely acceptable.
Say I get 2% less RP per week because of bots. Over 10 weeks, that’s going to add up to a significant amount by the time I’m pushing for R10, which I’m getting close to.
Blizzard’s neglect of these bots is stealing honest peoples’ time. And if time is money, an extra week of grinding is not insignificant.