Random BG's are in a terrible state right now

That came about because Blizzard, like Charlie Brown believing that Lucy wouldn’t move the football, took the twink crowd at their word when they said it was never about stomping non-Twinks. But very quickly after the novelty wore off the XP off queues got longer, and longer, and longer. From what I hear, there’s now a small passionate community that keeps the XP off queues popping, if that’s the case that’s cool, but I’d estimate the number of Twink enthusiasts that actually want to fight other Twinks to be around 10%. If that.

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Level the normal way and ignore all pre-70 pvp. Possible exception the late 60’s if you want to try banking some honor.

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you must BG in an alternate universe, when I see these players missing gear in a 40+ BG or wearing grey NON-stat gear and explain that it isn’t helping the team…
they don’t reply with oh I’m new or go out and fix it… it’s the “Who cares bro, it’s no rated” then they show up in the next 5 games in exactly the same gear doing 136 DPS as a level 46. These types of players are why teams get graveyard camped!!!

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Leveling in Battlegrounds is a “normal” way to level.

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And they would be correct.

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Doesn’t sound like it.

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Nope, theyre horrible. No fun at all. Imagine devs who are competent like in other games and put guards at spawn that will one shot you if you go near.

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No, they would not be. If you are not going in there to win DON’T QUEUE. People are trying to play and have fun, when your team gets destroyed because too many of these people have this mindset it ruins the fun for everyone else. You are exactly why this community is crap.

How did that work out for them?

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Sounds like you’re wrong

Gee, great answer lol.

I mean they are kind of right. Anything other than max level pvp should just put everyone at the exact same ilvl, and disable trinkets other than the ones you get from winning BG’s (add the cc removal on use effect to them also . Also the first time you Q for pvp, you receive a cc trinket that will scal all the way to level 69, only useable in pvp ). In my opinion low level BG’s are for learning your class/spec while you are leveling. Letting people come in to curb stomp people is lame. They can easily add an NPC that lets you Q for randoms while you’re leveling that makes it remove the restrictions so you can Q that way if you want to, similarly to the XP off npc. So many people are turned off from pvp in the current state because blizz won’t make some simple changes. Especially healers, which we currently have a shortage of.

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I play in a bracket where everyone has the best gear that is possible to get, and we feel the same way. Players are turned off completely.
Adding templates or even equal item levels etc will not change anything without the outliers being adjusted. Kind of how it’s always been really.
Funny you mention healers though, Resto Druid and Resto Sham can top both charts very easily. RShaman actually has quite possibly the most reliable one shot in the lower brackets on a low cd.
As much as players think it’s a gearing issue, it really isn’t.

Lol, yeah it was a great answer to you’re superbly worded suggestion. Thanks for appreciating that your opinion is wrong though, LOL.

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:laughing:

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low quality bait mate, welcome to my ignore list!

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Not sure why they haven’t been replaced with a chat bot.
Much more benevolent too, most likely soon enough. :dracthyr_hehe_animated:

And of course it gets worse, haha.

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This is what happens when random bg heroes expect everyone to play like 2k rated players yet they won’t step foot into rated themselves.

It’s like this: you are eating at the kids table and wondering why you’re surrounded by kids.

Get into rated and eat at the adult table.

Random doesn’t just mean map it means all classes specs players and all kinds of things. Someone might zone in buck Nekkid and guess what…they can. Totally random

not necessarily man like there’s a big difference between your take and the actual issues

a newer player to pvp or a new class and spec is to be expected but the green leveling gear and premades are killing it.

effort is hard to measure if you’re getting out coordinated by “friends” in disc or getting 1 shot until you get gear.