How would you?
Nothing about the current state of the AH, nor my idea, has anything to do with the fact: the USER is always going to carry some level of responsibility.
If you just click “sell”, when the degenerates are baiting an item … I don’t know what else to say except “sorry bout cho luck.”
But one thing’s for sure: using my idea, they would never do that in the first place, because they’d have nothing to gain from it.
gg
There’s some part of it which is semi-automated. The same way that ah addons use the ah and is quite faster than someone using the normal UI.
I’m tired of anyone trying to control the ah, that people might think bots manage to do it is simply fine wine to me on an already big problem.
Easy fix to the AH is to simply remove addons from interacting with it, remove all api access.
The auction house needs another overhaul, specifically in how players interact with it and how items are handled on it.
The ability to undercut by 1 copper combined with last-in/first-out needs serious examination. It should be first-in/first-out, with a mandatory undercut percentage and/or amount, harsher penalties for constant relisting, and options for longer listings.
The current AH is largely only fun for goblins, which isn’t healthy for the game.
then no more transmog on the AH.
Right now it takes me 15-20 minutes to post my transmog.
If I have to do each one of these items manually, it’ll take me hours. Which isn’t worth doing, so it all gets vendored. Which means if I’ve got any mog you want, you’re gonna go farm it.
Or people stop posting transmog at very high prices and try to sell them at lower prices to sell them in one session. The admission of how much time the addon saves by automating things is already a red flag advantage.
The transmog problem is a good reason to let every account have a certain number of just permanent listings (or at least very-long, weeks to months). Also, the game should have some built in stat tracking for how mogs are selling - noobs finding some super rare item and then basically handing it to some AH sniper is just stupid.
really wish people would STOP spreading this. it is not completely game wide.
only trade goods.
I’m personally fine with this. It would be much easier to have another system for people to get tmog which would be reliable. I thought at first that old naxx could serve that goal, the items that let you buy a random tmogs should only target tmogs that you don’t have from that expansion and they should do this for all old ones.
have no problem selling anything on the auction house - I am really doubtful people are botting on there
The best change they could make to combat this is making it to where your auctions are locked for the amount of time they are posted.
I.e, you list something for 12 hours. You cannot cancel it for 12 hours and you only receive it back when it fails to be sold.
List something for 48 hours, you cannot cancel for 48 hours and only receive it back when it fails to sell. So on and so forth.
I rarely cancel scan and I never have a problem selling things 
Heck, most TWW stuff sells while I’m still posting
I sold 120k worth of excess mats in my warbank on the weekend about out of about 50 listings, I only had 5 not sell. Most sold within 30 minutes. Can never understand the complaints about bots because I just don’t see any.
No, if someone makes a mistake or needs to cancel for other reasons they should be able to. Let’s not pretend your are addressing bots when you just want to eliminate people who work harder at selling than you want to.
Its not that serious lol
Yep, I agree with this and I’m someone who uses the AH frequently. I know Blizzard added the delay from cancelling items once you hit a certain threshold, but that can only do so much. I wouldn’t mind seeing addons that allow you to cancel or post items broken.
In addition to adding a timeout for cancelling an auction there should be a timeout for doing any auction query. A normal person doesn’t need to do an auction query more than once every few seconds. So enforce a limit of one query every three seconds. In addition to breaking bots this would have the added benefit of making the AH more responsive for normal people.
There’s a big difference between selling reagents on the auction house and crafted gear / toys, etc… Reagents are realm wide, so they sell really quickly if they are current (and sometimes if they aren’t). Crafted gear and items, however, are still realm specific and don’t move nearly as fast.
There’s a big problem right now with cross-server bots who buy (I’m assuming) crafted gear at low prices on high-pop servers and then resell it on smaller servers. These bots literally login at regular rotations for 12-14 hour shifts and cancel scan and relist.
And, yes, there’s a chance that these are legitimate players, but they don’t really behave like regular players do. For instance, I’ve added one of the worst offenders to my friends list. When they login, I switch over to my auction house toon and list things that they are selling at a fraction of the price. For instance, I’ll list 564 ilevel profession equipment for much less gold than it is selling for on the server and less than it takes to make it, given current reagent prices. They will always list their stuff at the price without fail. At which point, I cancel the stuff I listed cheaply, buy all theirs up and resell it for a tidy profit.
Maybe this is just somebody who is really bad at the auction house / economics, but I’ve been doing the same thing to them and a bunch of others for weeks now and I think the simple explanation is that these are bots.
If somebody is so invested in making gold on the auction house by selling / flipping crafted gear (not reagents) that they dedicate themselves to logging more or less on the hour for 12-14 hour shifts every day, than it doesn’t follow logically that this person would not also check to make sure that they are actually listing stuff at prices will turn a profit, much less buy out my tremendously underpriced items to flip somewhere else, which is what humans who play the auction house do.
And if you want even more evidence, take a day trip down to the auction house at Booty bay between 3pm and 3am on any day of the week. As a poster above mentioned, you can literally watch identical toons from the same four Area-52 guilds login and logout one after the other for hours on end.
That is just people really bad at the auction house. Bots would have costs built in to their programming - that would be a basic need. They likely aren’t even running TSM set up properly because that will prevent that as well.
Plus buying stuff like that should tell you exactly where they are getting things - since crafted by appears on those. At the start of the expansion people were dumping that equipment on the AH really cheap at times because they used them to level up. So your cost now might still be resulting in them getting a profit if they bought items themselves at below cost.
Well, there is never anybody listed in the crafted from field; it is always blank, which means that the items come from off server.
I’m not talking about low level equipment. I’m talking about max level boe crafting gear, which people were definitely not dumping on the AH at the start of the expansion below cost.
The other thing is that, based on what I see at Booty Bay, the person in question isn’t just playing one account, but at least three accounts, because sometimes three identical toons from the same four Area-52 guilds are logged in at once. If this is somebody who is just bad at the auction house, why would they be bad on at least three accounts?
Again, I could be wrong, but I’ve been playing the auction house for years and what I see going on doesn’t look like players who don’t know how the auction house works or who have TSM misconfigured. It looks like automation.
Again, take a trip to Booty bay between 3pm and 3am server, and tell me what you see.
I posted herbs this morning and while I was away the under cutting started and drove the price down from 54g ea to 36g ea.
You can see a long list of around 1g under cuts all the way from my post to the current.
by the time I get up and my auction has expired the price will have been cut in half.
it’s either bots or not very savvy players.
can’t imagine what would make a real player do this unless they are playing with mom’s credit card and they buying tokens so they can sell on the AH at huge losses.
real people that need gold to pay for subs and expansions wouldn’t do this.