Raiding sadness

Hard agree.

How quickly they forget about Azerite

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Give us casuals robot laser tag!

Raz was a good heroic boss imo. Sark too.

People like damage amps + haste steroids.

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I haven’t really bothered to push M+ until recently, and I have higher IO than you do this season.

I just think that infinite no lockout grinds in an MMO are bad design.

I play an spriest. Not this character.

But anyway - your guild should get better at distributing loot if the raiders are complaining. Because we magically seem to not have much of an issue.

I think they have been good. Better than SL with the exception of Nathria for sure.

You know what you’re right. Sark was solid, but, I liked Nelth better.

Zaralek was mid tho and that’s a shame.

I’ve only skimmed this thread, but the number of things that are just factually wrong is so high I’m just gonna steer clear of it.

Dear OP,
Never make threads about raiding in general discussion, they’ll just get swamped by people who don’t raid and are just going to make up crap.
Love,
Brewa

The downside I feel of the current gearing system is it is a very fast rapid climb and then a plateau. By week 3-4 guilds were already saturating in the 441 range and all that’s left is weekly spark gate and the mythic+ vault.

So raid teams reached near their maximum gear very fast with no new soft nerfs of gearing weeks into the tier.

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I have 2 real complaints about this season, other than the current score stagnation caused by augmentation.

  1. Raid had leaps and bounds better gear. Trinkets, rings, weapons, etc. all better from raid.

  2. Healing is kinda dumb right now. Healing and mob damage need to both be cut by 50-60%, or our HP needs to be doubled again. Topping the raid in 3s being both regular and necessary just feel really bad.

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speak on it! true

And that spriest is pushing just fine with minimal raid items, all but 1 of which have been buffed by your M+.

It’s not week 4, correct.

This, for example, is false, as every Brewmaster was farming crawg tusks & forgestorms (as were many other specs).

This varies on class but only really trinkets for me. Not having the class trinket vs someone who does was such a huge dps difference.

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And I’m using a 441 heroic weapon and trinket because there’s nothing that could come from vault that could replace them.

441 Djaruun >>>> 447 perfectly statted stick.

ya trinkets are the big ol one for me. And the entropic loop. but there’s like 3 trinkets you want from the raid so it’s p scuffed

It really depends on your class and spec.

Caster trinkets in the raid kind of suck.

Melee trinkets/Beacon are very strong.

Rashok trinket is broken strong for healers.

2h agi weps suck, you farm the 2 out of UR and Nelth.

2h str wep has Askandi

Raid has the cloak as well, so overall it has more chase items, but mythic+ has some as well.

Sure there is.

But anyway, the solution is an iron curtain between M+ and raid loot.

M+ gear shouldn’t work in raid.
Raid gear shouldn’t work in M+.

Everyone’s a winner.

(And now here come the “tut tut, we can’t do that!” crap replies
)

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I’ve always said I might disagree with you about a lot of stuff but I agree with this. vacuum it