Raid finder not likely

Wait really? Might actually be fun then.

There actually was an occasional interesting conversation in lfg but even that rare event is gone with the post time out.

Fixed that for you.

The audience that got us classic is dead set against RDF regarding it as one of the most disastrous features in the games history. It was one supported by a vocal minority of retail andies that wanted it forced into wrath before even it’s authentic place (ICC), despite it being overwhelmingly despised by the classic community.

We are already seeing the immeasurable damaging effects it has on the game on replay now. The social aspect of the game is completely destroyed with RDF, it’s a solo lobby game now.

There you go again trying to insult people. That’s what you do. I played Vanilla, BC, and Wrath before there was retail and I thought rdf was the best addition to the game ever. A lot of us had been asking for some sort of group finder even in Vanilla. Dungeons was the best part of the game for me and I finally got to do them as often as I wanted.

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Good news. Versions of the game without RDF exist.

Lmfao so you are criticizing me for calling the person I original responded to a retail andy when they were calling people classic andys? Double standard much? Lmfao.

I played them too, RDF was highly controversial and the audience that got us classic in the first place was the audience that has been saying for years it destroyed the social aspect of the game. It was a vocal minority of retailers who wanted it, period.

I played as well, and it was highly controversial from a loud minority.

Fixed that for you.

Fixed that for you.

Likewise bud, you should google the term “gaslighting”.

The rare self inflicted L. Nice.

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I played OG Wrath when RDF launched, and the only people who didn’t like it were the bitter Vanilla vets who already hated Wrath.

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The vast majority of the playerbase at the time was people who started in either vanilla or TBC.

Lots of people including myself started in Wrath.

I know what it means and how to use it, but I figured w/ your petty nonsense you could easily relate.

There are population graphs showing that wrath had a larger growth curve than Vanilla or TBC.

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Good for you. Most people at the time of OG wrath started in vanilla/TBC and were largely against RDF, hence it being something highly controversial and a major point people wanted to get away from with classic servers.

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Easily debunked with a quick google search. Did you just make up a chart in your head that aligns with your fantasy? WOTLK was when WoWs sub count plateued. Most growth came from TBC and vanilla.

You use retailers as an insult because you have no rational arguments. I wanted rdf and I likely started wow earlier than you or at least within a few weeks of you. If you actually played Vanilla you’d know complaints about the difficulties finding groups started then. It was players in vanilla that asked for some sort of group finder before there was anything to be called retail.

It destroyed nothing I cared about. I wasn’t some misaligned social misfit that had to seek out relationships on line because I couldn’t make friends with the community I lived in. You misfits desperately clung to the trivial relationships you made on line while the rest of us made real friends in our neighborhoods. The vast majority of wow players didn’t make life long friends in the game. It was the few social misfits that couldn’t make real friends in their real life. We hung out with people we could see and feel and touch. Our lives were about more than sitting at a computer typing at someone.

When an improvement like rdf made it possible for us to play the game without sitting in lfg chat spamming “Lf tank for dungeon x” you lost that trivial connection that was the only thing that gave meaning to your lonely existence. While we lost nothing because we already had meaningful social connections in our life.

Dungeon runs before Rdf didn’t foster social relationships. They got in the way of making them. I once saw a player named Solanaceae. That’s the scientific botanical term for the Nightshade plant family. I knew the term because I’m a botanist but it’s unlikely anyone but a botanist or an herbalist would use that term as a name. I whispered her and we spent 45 minutes to an hour discussing plants. There’s no way such a conversation could take place in a dungeon run. All you can get in a dungeon run is a few trivial comments but you value them because you have no one to have real conversations with and lack the ability to interact with someone in a deep and meaningful way.

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Shows higher growth, a plateau, then more growth prior to cata.

Funny enough your linked page doesn’t show up on their site. inb4 “i did it wrong”.

I used retailer in response to the original person I responded which used classic andy. Everything I said after was objective, factual arguments. You are apparently incapable of disputing any of the actual facts so you decided to have an emotional outburst and argue about civility and decorum instead, which the person whom I responded did not have but curiously you ignore that because their share your personal views. Civility and decorum for you apparently doesn’t apply when the person lacking it is someone you agree with.

I played those, nobody was asking for an automated group finder. It didn’t even exist in any mmo. You had people who wanted server merges, fresh servers, transfers, etc. for people on low pop realms who had legitimate problems, modern dungeon finder wasn’t even a topic of debate until it came out in wrath and it was highly controversial if you actually played it. Clearly you never played OG vanilla or TBC.

Good for you. This is why classic was created, to bring back a version of the game that for people that were alienated by the anti-mmo feautures that have littered the modern game. Classic was not made for the retail audience, it was made to bring back long lost customers who have quit the game since cataclysm and to a lesser degree wrath.