Yep. Based on the fact you’re still 9/10 and your rankings, I’m guessing that’s the big issue with this for you.
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More like wanting to play semi-pro and being pissed that the majority of the other people just want to play softball after work.
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I do not care if you are 1/10, 8/10, 10/10. Servers are bleeding, guilds are bleeding. Attempt to disagree with factual evidence… look at logs, ironforge pro etc. All numbers are headed downward.
I want something to keep casuals engaged and this nerf would help but not really that much. As a CO-GM and raid leader It is very difficult to recruit right now, our LFG channel is spammed with guild advertisements.
Before nerfing KT/Vashj i think a look at cross realm/realm merging or free transfers would be the better option. We need to condense the amount of TBC classic servers so the player pools are larger to choose from.
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Vashj/KT are some of the hardest fights in all of TBC.
The issue wouldn’t be so bad if you didn’t need them down to get to BT/Hyjal etc. I have no idea why Blizzard was obsessed with over the top attunements when they made TBC.
So a lot of people are annoyed at this. People when phase 3 drops are going to have trouble doing the attunement if their guilds/raid teams are depleted by the time the phase comes from people quitting.
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Go to retail all the content is post nerf there.
Are guilds dying because the content is hard?
Or are guilds dying because there is nobody to recruit and replace the people who refuse to raid more than 6 hours a week, or to replace the tons of melee dps that carried over from classic vanilla and refused to reroll.?
Make sure you are solving the right problem because I’m pretty sure we are at this point because of servers bleeding players over time, until all that was left is the people that were happy in the guilds they were in. And then those guilds couldn’t recruit to clear and those guilds were not happy and decided to transfer or disband.
10/10; Raid leader and GM since phase 2 classic vanilla.
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You’ve only cleared Kara. Why would any nerfs to SSC/TK affect you?
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NERF THE TRASH, the bosses are fine!
You checked the logs of my alt, are you upset?
Not at all. I just like checking people who dismiss others for not caring about pre-nerf and seeing if they’re posting on their main, but here we are. Instead you hide behind an alt, and I’m always curious why people do it.
I’m posting on my main with mediocre rankings because I don’t care.
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Well tbh I dont use the forums often and this was my last selected character the last time I was on the forums. This was my one of my mains for vanilla classic.
There are plenty of guilds that got either 9/10 or 10/10 the past couple weeks. Obviously there will be more hitting 10/10 this lockout, and the next, and the next. In fact, on your server it looks like 25+ guilds hit 10/10 just this past week so… maybe be a bit less pretentious.
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If I worked at Blizzard the big take aways would be very apparent. I’ve skimmed this forum post for about 30 minutes and the consensus is pretty clear. I’m also CO-GM and raid lead for an 8/10 guild that raids 6 hours a week.
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Nerf the trash. Not the bosses. This will allow more time for progress on boss fights and ideally push guilds from 8/10 to 10/10.
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Condense the TBC classic servers to slow/stop the bleeding of players (perhaps via creating battlegroups like retail eventually did)
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I’m pro-changes. Let it be done!
I run a guild on Grob.
We have Kael on farm and last Thursday we got Vashj to 1.3% with these pre nerf mechanics.
Yes my guild got upset because we were THAT close to a pre nerf kill and it is something us sweaty nerds wanted to accomplish this week.
HOWEVER.
I don’t think the proposed Vashj nerf is that huge, it just REALLY cuts down on the RNG aspect of the Mind control since we can CC 1 shotting melee or the healers who can (Still heal vashj) even when tanks taunt. We killed at least an extra 15% of her life pool from our healers healing her.
Also the fact that CCin’g MC’s would be possible would make the mechanics a bit more complicated and more fun in my opinion. Okay now the entire raid has the responsibility to CC the targets, and THEN anyone with a dispell has a responsibility to dispell the cc’ed targets after the MC wears off.
I’m for the Vashj Change but I am not sure Kael needs a nerf. Kael seems pretty straight forward and is just a dps gear check for the most part. If you are stuck on Kael, farm bosses for another couple weeks and watch youtube strats.
Cheers
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You don’t need to raid more then 6 hours a week to be 10/10, you can take extra melee and still be 10/10 and recruiting is not that big of a problem if you put the work in to do it.
IN case anyone was wondering, I rerolled recently … I know some of you look up logs
We got 10/10 last week and agree 100% with this take. Kill Vashj and then getting bad RNG causing you to spend over and hour on her again is something I have no desire to do.
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good job actiblizz you just went from messing up pvp to messing up pve im done with this trash game
why don’t release dual spec?
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