Race-class restrictions are good

Alternate timelines and realities exist in infinite numbers. We have seen this as cannon since before wod and after wod. So a reality where gnomes are all about nature and are chosen by cenarious does exist. Thats connon so you cant agrue against it. You can go oh but in the class order hall this that and thats fine for this reality but chars can move between them so one from an alternate coming to ours is again normal and within cannon

Sometimes I can be, depending entirely on the replies to me. People saying stuff like So, you don’t have an arguement when they failed to understand said argument numerous times, is just going to bring out the pettiness

That we don’t travel in, nor does any charecter comes from with the exception of maghar, and even then, they are firmly on the ground of strict rules.

True. But the story is strictly with MU Azeroth.

In a time existense we never travel to or ever see. Also i am doubtful of this.

Uh… no, since we don’t go there.

Actually no they can’t. The ability to jump to AU dreanor was a very specific spell that required a very specific way to do. The dragon that knew how to do it is dead, and no charecter had showed interest in traveling or better yet, creating alternate universes (because it was indeed created)

Also time traveling and alternate universes is not a solid arguement to go with. No one liked WoD, no one likes that mahghar dane from there either. I do not think blizzard will keep repeating that mistake.

I mean, you basically admitted your trolling ppl in another thread, so yeah…

AU Gnomish Druids would be really based and funny

I wouldn’t mind if they gave that explanation if they continue the “Every race can be every class” train.

Wrong. It happened in WC2. Medans entire char basis was doing this, cant remeber the orcs name who fought in the war of ancients but him too along side the fact we did in this very expansion making a reality where murlocs ruled as dominant species.

Wait your using medan? You do know blizzard decannonized that mary sue right? That is why medivh is back

How did they get rid of that mary sue? By using an alternate reality timeline. Not to mention you ignored the other times pointed out to you.

I never admitted to trolling anyone. So you can stop lying about things I never said

But if you want to continue to be dishonest, I will gladly put you on ignore

Medan is, as far as I know, still technically canon. He’s simply hasn’t been mentioned to touched upon whatsoever. Though it is known that if he comes back in the future he was never the Guardian, as this is the only thing that has recently been mentioned about him.

Even more might be changed in the future but we’ll have to see.

No actually. by literaly saying his comics is not canon just like the table top board game.

Uh-huh…

Now i am amused by your falsity in an attempt to bait more ppl.

This about a million times for a few different reasons.

I think about it using similar logic with old transmogs and account-wide mounts, etc.

What does “player X” having something do to diminish my gameplay experience? And the answer almost always is nothing.

Now some of those items have another aspect (such as how they were acquired, etc). Personally, I still don’t care - I have some old stuff, so what? I’ve gotten to have my fun with it, if other folks put in some work, let them have their fun too. I think the game is better with more for people to experience, rather than less. That last point applies here too.

If I want to have an Orc Paladin (with a racial that helps my non existent pets) so what? Is your role playing ruined?

Ultimately, there are many aspects of WoW that are in place because it’s a game. We are the ultimate “chosen one” because we are the PC and therefore the Heroes/Champions/Murder Hobos for Hire and it’d be super unfulfilling if every expansion we had to beat things up just for the super NPCs to come save the day. That’s a very different game. Because it’s a game populations don’t matter because having real people unable to make races because they suffered in the overarching narrative would be unfun.

And to the folks who ask “well why not just let Alliance folks pick Goblins,” they basically can at this point. Alliance and Horde players can basically do whatever they want together. The only difference is some parts of the questing experiences (and in this expac it can’t be that much) and what cities you visit (and during expacs you pretty much share one - so much so that they even have an AH in this one).

Maybe there’s something that will make me feel differently. I do think that some racial abilities and/or stats should make it “suboptimal” in some sense to be a particular class. If we had Ogres, they might not do best as Rogues, but if someone had an Ogre Rogue fantasy in mind - let them do it!

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No one is baiting anyone just because your reading comprehension is abysmal and your constant making up of stuff that never took place.

I usually don’t care about class/race combinations that have a certain amount of logic behind it, even if I personally think they’re stupid or whatever. Like sure Undead holy priests can technically exist and by extension the possibility of Undead Paladins can’t be discarded, but there are lore reasons as to why that metaphysically is difficult to explain in the lore.

There’s plenty of other games where this isn’t an issue, but in wow it is. For example, I don’t really care if Tauren get rogues because we’ve seen them. They probably aren’t all that sneaky in the lore, or at least moreso than Tauren hunters, but they’re still underhanded and deal with poisons. That’s fine.

But then we get things like, what if we got playable Broken? Sure. But then they unexplainably give them Paladins. This would be an issue because Broken are metaphysically incapable, at least as we’ve so far seen, to connect with the Light (What all Paladins use in the Lore). That makes quite a problem.

There’s ways to shrug it off for sure, but it feels to me more like post-rationalizations than actual thoughtfulness as to why this is included.

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Your quite not here to have any discussion on these subjects really. Stuff like this points to you as an troll just trying to wile ppl up for no reason. I am giving you a chance to admit to what your doing though.

Me and others finding it amusing is not trolling. This is the kind of nonsense that I’m talking about, you constantly lie, fail to comprehend what is being said, and than try to twist it into something it’s not

Are you also going to make a big deal about the others who said they’re getting a kick out people having a meltdown over the new class combos? Because if not, than I’ll just add you to my ignore list, because than I know the kind of game your playing

Ah so you didn’t actually read the story so much for the “but the lore arguement” helps to actually know it.

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Your unfortunate typo now has made me think of Elmer Fudd’s voice whenever I read your posts.

Alright then, I’ll say this : I don’t like that. I like the factions, I like it when a game stays true to its core concept and initial premises, I dislike it when player freedom is enhanced to the point that nothing matters anymore. When I’m saying that, am I ruining people’s fun ? Then I’ll gladly ruin people’s fun

That’s not race class selection

No it isn’t because every race has specific lore for each class that can be created

The pathetic lack of depth of this game is ridiculous and this is a great way to worldbuild

This does, of course, require Retvrn-ing to the era of Class Quest Campaigns from the onset during leveling

Not all warlocks use fel. Kira Iresoul uses Bloodstones via blood magic to control demons. Bleeding Hollow Maghar can do the same.

Don’t be bitter, be better, be creative.

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It’s the same idea. My point was that anyone can be anything lorewise, every individual path is conceivable, but that shouldn’t necessarily be reflected by the playable options

I mean, if they are to write race-class lore, then there’s more than enough work to be done with the already-existing combos. How many of them were never ever explored ? How did they never give Troll priests any sort of lore acknowledgement when literally all they had to do was commit to the collective headcanon that they’re either Loa priests or Witch doctors ?

And it’s really not about warlocks. I’m certain many convincing and cool explanations could be given as to why X race can become warlocks. If you actually have a fitting and interesting story to tell about a specific race-class combo, like with the Lok’osh, then go ahead and do it I guess. It’s the idea that every race MUST have access to every class that I reject because in the context of WoW it can only lead to race standardization, certainly not to enhanced worldbuilding

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