Holy Priest damage is so bad now, it is impossible to complete basic quests and solo enemies, even at max item level. I have been a Holy Priest for almost two decades, never before have I been forced to go shadow to simply exist in the non-instanced world. By way of example, I just tried to do the Loam researcher’s event for an endeavor task, and I did so little damage, the final boss disappeared at half health, and the event timed out without rewards after 25 minutes! My heart hurts that my favorite spec, the one that’s kept me playing all these years, is no longer playable. Please Blizzard, revert the damage nerfs or at least, add a non-instanced damage modifier so we can play the game we love.
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I can’t remember which expansion it was, maybe MoP, but priest as holy could toggle a chakra that boosted their dps and lowered their healing. You could also choose the opposite. I don’t know why this doesn’t exist. It would solve this problem. I hate having to use shadow to solo. I want to be a holy caster.
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The sad thing, is that as best as I can tell, Oracle Holy just might have the best DPS of any Healer spec right now (provided you are talented for it and using Apotheosis offensively). ALL healer damage is really too low. Like…let’s not go back to the Shadowlands “best DPS healer is meta healer” model or anything, but this just feels reaaaallllly low.
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My fav part is we lose our instant cast range tagging ability like literally every other spec including melee have…. Why ?
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And when healer’s did lot’s of damage people complained that holy priest was being left out of M+ due to low damage and no passive forms of damage. Holy priests complained that they wanted to heal, and not do damage.
You can’t have everything. Solo content in this game has rarely ever been challenging enough to kill a DPS player. Playing a healer is just an RP choice. You can switch to shadow and finish any solo content in 1/4th the time and get back to actually healing on your holy priest.
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Yes, this is a serious issue! Not being able to tag feels awful!
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You’re joking right? You realize you can tag with purge… it has a 34 yard range. Maybe understand your toolkit before you start complaining about pruning.
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I’d also like to do damage? You know like how I could for the last twenty years? You don’t have to be so condescending.
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You can purge and then spam holy nova which will do more damage than trying to maintain dots and waste globals on more than 5 targets. You could also just play shadow, an actual damage spec if you need to do damage, and play holy, a healer spec when you need to heal.
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Yeah you don’t get to tell me how to play.
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I feel like you are taking your unjustified anger at Blizzard for making sensible pruning for the long term health of the game out on me, the person trying to help you. To be clear, I can’t add anything back into the game nor can I take things away, so being mad at me isn’t going to solve any of your problems. The only real solution is education and radical acceptance of the changes so that you can enjoy priest for what it is.
It’s a crap design. People have every right to be angry. You are not helping. And this is not healthy for the game in the near or the long term.
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I have not heard any good arguments for why it’s a bad design, just lot’s of people stating that it’s bad without the ability to articulate a rational defense of their position. Nor does anyone ever provide better idea’s than the one’s Blizzard has implemented. It’s always I don’t like this, but I have no idea how to fix it myself so I’ll just keep complaining.
Yes you have. You just can’t refute it because it’s an opinion. Stop being disingenuous.
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There’s having an opinion based on reason and having an opinion based on feelings and they are not the same. Almost all the arguments I have seen are feeling based arguments. “I feel like I need heal and PW: S” even though they were such low priority spells they weren’t even worth putting on your bars. “I feel like SoH gives me utility” even though in the next post they complain about priest having no mobility and needing to hard cast a 4 second spell every 3 minutes. “I feel like I can’t tag anything because they took SW: P” even though you can still tag things, and SW: P maintenance took away from healing and had low value compared to disc or shadow.
Everything that Blizzard pruned, their is either an alternative for, it’s been baked into another spell, or it wasn’t being used except by people who don’t know how to read a wowhead guide.
I don’t know if you realize this, but I’ve been here over the last few days commenting here and there and reading everything. You have been coming across pretty antagonistically. This guy responded to you with the same kind of attitude/heat that you have had over multiple threads, talking to many different people, over the last few days.
I’ve thought about writing something about it a couple times because while I don’t think you necessarily HAVE to discuss things in a friendly overly cordial manner, I would say that the tone you are putting forth is not really serving “trying to help”. I don’t know if this is your intention or if you care, just thought I’d throw it out there.
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You have seen many reasons. ONE of which is that it is boring and uninspired. You’re literally asking people to tag mobs with an ability designed to remove a buff from an enemy.
Holy being overly automated and it’s healing profile being to plain is a reasonable and rational criticism.
Reason-based and feeling based opinions are not mutually exclusive.
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At this point I am just completely jaded by the lack of understanding and doomerism I see on the forums every day. People with years of playtime saying that nothing Blizzard ever does is good. Always thinking inside of their own little box instead of seeing the bigger picture.
The priest forums should be selfishly celebrating that they removed kicks from healers which was a massive buff for healer priest. Or that the pruning didn’t touch the myriad other things that would have actually been horrible for priest.
But instead it’s always the same feeling based:
even when the priority list has barely changed in terms of actual gameplay, which would seem to indicate that they just never enjoyed priest to begin with.
Someone has to combat the negativity so that priest’s coming to the forums see that it’s actually not bad, and that making sweeping changes to the game is what kept WoW alive for the past 25 years.
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We should be celebrating things being taken away from other healers rather than given to priests? Give me a break. Addition by subtraction I guess.
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Yes dude, yes. This game doesn’t get good because Blizzard gives every spec every button. How long have people complained about homogenization in this game, or button bloat. It’s not a one size fits all problem, it’s a balancing act.
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