PvP without Ascendance?

Experimenting with Enhancement for PvP and even though Ascendance is the ‘big burst’ its also a ‘big target’, and like Ret Paladins; flashy, gargantuan toons scream ‘CC my face!’ and get locked down and that burst goes a bit flat.

So I’ve been working on a ‘Lightning Joust’ kind of build; stacking Vers/Mastery and taking Elemental Blast, Storm Bringer, and Earthen Spike to make those instant cast Lightning Bolts hit harder without having visuals give away that I’m ‘mini bursting’.

I was wondering if the most ‘sustained’ kind of builds actually work for BG’s, World PvP, and maybe Arenas, while I’m jumping into M+ and Raiding?

pvp is miserable without ascendance and doom winds.

together… well… I can kill 2 people in 5 seconds.

If stormkeeper lighting bolts stacked with msw I could see it being really good but right now sunder is just better. Sunder only costs one global for a nice chunk of aoe and a incap where stormkeeper costs 3 globals to do similar damage but mastery scaling could be nice if you have 70%+

Running ele blast and spirit wolf with a lightning shield is my go to build for random bgs/skirmish and wpvp just cause I’m not getting focused down like in ranked.
Ele blast crits for 9kish with my gear so sometimes you’ll just gimp low geared players from 40yrds

Yeah, it’s obvious burst. The problem is that, like Wings for Ret, is an immediate ‘CC Me’ Moment. Its too much of a tell.

Well the idea behind Storm Keeper was to use it with Earthen Spike; since Lightning Bolt is pure nature damage while Sundering is ‘Flamestrike’. It’s more discreet when you make it instant-cast and Spike is like Colossus Smash.

People tend to not notice the little things until its too late.

On the other hand, I can always take the Leggo for Spirit Wolves and take Elemental Spirits. Or make a lava lash build.

A 7+ global burst won’t be catching many people off guard but that said I’ll probably mess around with stormkeeper and earthen spike once +70% mastery is possible with decent versa.
I was running earthen spike as necrolord Enh on beta was good burst but was clunky af.