2100 for 266 ilvl gear is harder then mythic raid mythic raid is a scipted fight with mechanics a simple bot could do…
I tried. The weapons don’t show up for me?
Especially because the wording of this post tries to trick you into thinking the weekly amount is increasing but it’s really not. Every week you ONLY get 550. I guess I’ll be pushing mythic+ for awhile.
You left out 4 items from the great vault.
So, at extreme worst (all 4 duplicates for 4 straight weeks) it is about equal and at best it is WAY better.
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I personally didn’t have to hit high rating as a tank no, but I still conq capped each week and hit at least 1800 rating for a chance at TF or in 8.3 good corruption, or even possible upgrade.
Quite a few of my guildies did go for higher ratings all the way to 2.4k to get their BiS azerite and trinkets. So yes we had to pvp and did. Its not like you guys have to pve now either, you will eventually get geared, just slower if you only pvp. You will have your full set to push for rating halfway through the season.
Also pvp gear is best for pvp now most likely due to vers bonus.
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Knowing exactly when I’ll get my weapon again, and being able to choose what other gear we buy after the fact is much better than rolling a slow machine every week and hoping. Not to mention the loot vault, who knows what some of us will get out of that.
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Farming pvp gear should be as competitive to farming M+ for gear so those who only want to pvp, can.
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Depends. We didn’t have the weekly chest so we all progressed at roughly the same rate. 4 week cap for weapons feelsbad if someone is going to loot one in their first weekly vault.
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Can you get weapon from the end of week chest? that would be nice
This is dumb. PvE gear should lose -40 ilvl’s when in a PvP environment. PvP gear should gain +40 ilvl’s when in a PvP environment. We as PvP players should never need to worry about “upgrading” the ranks of our gear to PvP. That should be an OPTIONAL step if we want to bring out PvP gear into PvE environments.
Blizzard continues to have no idea what they’re doing. I’m already watching premades of people in full M0 gear with ilvl’s of like 185+ dominating pvp players that are stuck at 171.
To make matters worse they’re going to make conquest gear be stuck at a demoted ilvl unless you can get into the top 3% of your pvp rating. So it’s great, the people with PvE gear will be farming people stuck in PvP gear and then the PvE players will get to unlock useless conquest gear at an ilvl they don’t need because they’ll already be getting gear from M15+ and Mythic raids.
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Its not harder than later bosses, I’ll agree that 2.1k is harder than like first 5-6 bosses depending on raid. If it was still 2.4k I’d agree that its harder but not at 2.1k, simple bots couldn’t do a mythic fight either. It would have to be pretty well developed AI bot.
Eh, it will normalize itself fairly early into the season. It’s not like mythic+ where getting full 226 in every slot is virtually impossible due to the massive loot table in the chest and limited to only the chest.
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Its more of a pacing issue with PVE. Ok yeah, we’d earn gear at a better rate than 3 expansions ago, but PVE earns better gear, faster. It used to be very near the same. You never had to push raid content or mythic dungeons or mythic+ to earn PVP gear in MoP, WoD, WOTLK to name a few.
BTW it takes 20 weeks to get a full set of PVP gear.
Scripted fights will never be harder than non-scripted.
Unless it’s Yozora from KH3.
Yay, so for those of us who don’t want to participate in PVE systems like covenants we’re still forced to do it. Thanks!
MOP and WoD for sure.
Wrath had tons of busted items and rating requirments though.
Dislodged foreign object, deathbringers will, shadow mourne, etc.
Really wish you guys would just seperate PvP and PvE gear again so you don’t have to take into consideration what kind of effect our PvP vendors have on the PvE gearing path.
I just want more conquest per week than what feels like breadcrumbs. What was weekly conquest without rating back in the day? like ~1650 right and that was enough for shoulders.
Imo feels like you guys are fighting against a problem that was already solved.
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If you ignore the weekly chest then sure.
Eh, it will normalize itself fairly early into the season. It’s not like mythic+ where getting full 226 in every slot is virtually impossible due to the massive loot table in the chest and limited to only the chest.
RNG or not, you can theoretically still run M+ infinitely until you get the drops you need. PVP players have a literal wall they can’t get past.
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