But you are missing the point, If I want to jump into LFR right now I cannot because of my gear score, it scales to 411 only in pvp content, but 80% of all horde players I am running into are in pve gear or pre 70 gear, their hps are like low 200k. We sit in the graveyard the entire game. Then if I que alliance so that I can win there is almost no point in playing because the other team is so weak, it becomes so one sided. Queing for pvp shouldn’t become this one sided mess because a bunch of non pvp players happened to que without the proper gear/stats. I mean how hard is it to at least buy the pvp trinkets? I haven’t made a single character yet that hasn’t had enough honor to buy a full set at 70. Can these other players at least be put into a separate pool so that they are not being destroyed by geared pvp players? Would that really be so hard to pull off?