Neither are PvE players, but please. Perpetuate the PvP player stereotype.
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I appreciate your concern. Do you charge an hourly rate for counciling. I need to know more how I should play a game. 
I have to sort of disagree here.
Vanilla WoW was much more open. It was not entirely focused on one part or the other.
That said they were rushed to put it out and thus major elements of PVP suffered for a good while. The same could be said for PVE elements. MC was put together in one week due to the rush, hence why they had no voices initially. We were meant to have Outlands, Northrend, DKs, DH’s, Necromancers, etc.
ONE method of Pvp, with no reward system and you still don’t believe that a modern view of Pvp, is misguided?
As you wish. Just don’t come screaming on the forums for more Pvp progression/adjustments/inclusion.
Sorry but I will need a link for this:
That aside, the point stands. What IS vanilla, is what people need to understand. Not what could have been or should have been. Because that is the version you will be playing.
If this was general discussion, I could very well understand the opinion. Completely. But here, it’s irrelevant. Literally.
This question implies that you may think you can level on a PvE server and then transfer to a PvP server. That was not something you could do in vanilla and I expect it will not be in classic.
But to answer your question, PvP all the way. PvP till the day I die. I’ll never, ever roll on a PvE server.
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Sounds like the wounds of someone who was ganked a few times in the past are still fresh. LOL. Yeah, pvp servers definitely aren’t for someone who takes ganking personally.
I don’t think that’s what he’s asking. And also you didn’t gain any experience from PvP in vanilla.
Just a fair warning: You are NOT allowed to tell anyone to leave the forums. The post will be deleted and even be banned, if the offence is bad enough.
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1.12 which will after the first content release have all of the major pvp elements. Why not initially? Probably to emulate how Vanilla did not have them initially as well as to give the initial rush of players no objective to force them to early pvp and possibly ruin a good chunk of the opening feel.
As for evidence of MC in one week. I could of sworn this was common knowledge but I found a quick video referencing it.
9min and 30sec mark.
Oh, that reminds me. Does your post take spell batching into account and the fact that only pvp’ers need it for an advantage over other players?
Hmm. Must be all that skill going to your non care bear head
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It’s a player VS. another player, so by definition, it’s technically PvP. Just because you don’t like gory movies doesn’t mean everyone else doesn’t.
I am not denying any of that.
That could be. The same way they are doing Raid progression release.
But it’s best for a Pvp’er to understand those facts. No matter if it’s in this recreation or the original. Pvp was NEVER the entire purpose of the game and did not start taking a more equal approach, until much later on.
I feel people who do not understand that or know that, are the quickest to frustration and let down. And progressive needs.
I dunno what spell batching is, nor do I use the term “care bear”. If you wanna play pve I ain’t stopping ya. I’ll be having too much fun in tarren mill and southshore.
I will see you there then 
I am not one for reporting but after the talk you just went over I must also inform you that your statement here goes over that line as well. The condensation is fairly obvious. Mind you I only say this as fair warning as you have given such a warning to another poster here, not in negative thought but corrective statement.
I don’t recall telling anyone to leave the forum? Is there something you are seeing that I’m not?
My main point here is the simple fact that there was no real sole objective to vanilla WoW. Hence my “sort of” in my disagreement.
As someone who only plays this game for WPVP and so forth, I’ve understood that it was never the sole purpose to this game from the beginning.