Yeah, technically it’s player vs player but it’s not PvP as we know it. Too bad too, I was soooo excited to do some Open World PvP in Pirate theme. I even changed my mog up, swapped out my mounts and made a Community last night called The Horde Corsairs, in anticipation for some Wpvp 
Ha! that’s epic, would make for a cool guild, I’m gonna sign up now, you better accept me!
Devs are doing some experimentation, they’ve fun creating this as per the interviews, but I don’t think their ideas match what players want for pve or pvp right now 
I hope its fun, otherwise its a massive failure for the community.
Nope! Once you completed your 1 year and haven’t been picked for a second round, the CC forum becomes only readable and you’re removed from the Discord.
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Facts. But this forum has some of the weirdest anti-pvpers who are obnoxiously vocal the moment a thread even mentions pvp. That loud and childish minority attempt to drown out any constructive threads around the subject.
I figured as much, hopefully one of the new Council Members will be PvP savvy, see it and run with it.
That’s what I’ve taken away from it as well. Still looks like fun though, the mogs are cool too. Would be nice if they’d add some actual Pirate content in open world to use them on!
It’s so bad I actually had to put a “Addressing any Nay sayers and PVE players” tab at the top of my post. PvP related posts can be kind of brash in their verbiage but you’re totally right they appear in droves ready to snuff out any hope PvP has of a future.
I’m hoping they’ll take the map and convert it into a new BG at some point
Very unlikely but a man can dream! I think this would be awesome reskinned as a Faction neutral (for instant ques) BG with several flags and instead of 2 teams we do 4 separate pirate crews.
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I was saying the same thing! Would be alot cooler if it started off or partially took place on boats out in the open sea, what good are pirates without the sea?
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This game lacks any form of fighting on the water, that’s why I still show up at Boralus once in a while to start trouble lol
I think I heard they sraight up recycled the whole zone of Arathi Highlands for this. I hope this doesn’t effect our odds of them ever revamping the old BFA Warfront for Stromgarde into an Epic and or regular BG… wait it almost definitely will… there’s no way they’ll reuse that asset again least of all for PvP…
Here here!
Let our voices be heard as PVP community. Lets roar! 
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Thanks for being part of the conversation, we need all the help we can get over here especially on patch days, to keep this conversation going so that hopefully more Community Council Members will jump on the “lets help PvP” band wagon. We’ve gotta show Blizz that PvP is being left out in the sun to die of exposure and that sloppy belated class tuning isn’t all PvP needs.
Please feel welcome to contribute to this thread all the time! It might prove to be our only hope of seeing change for PvP.
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Is there any place that I can look up and see actual player engagement numbers for various game modes? I know Blizzard tries to keep them under wraps, it’s be interesting to know how many players actively PvP compared to other game modes.
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There’s so much search pollution when trying to look it up it feels impossible, but I want to say Venruki put out a Youtube video recently with graphs, charts and player engagement numbers for PvP. I could be mistaken I didn’t watch it all the way through.
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I’ll have to check that out, I feel like Blizz posts numbers for raiding and mythic+ but they might all be vague. I haven’t been able to find anything concrete. I remember someone saying Ion made a statement suggesting that non rated pvp engagement was on par with Mythic + but I can’t recall it exactly
I like all the suggestions and quite frankly most should have done years ago. 3+ raids per xpac, numerous dungeons, mythic reworking and adding dungeons, that horrible Dawn place and the SL equivalent of the Dawn. So much work is put into PVE when really once you’ve done it once its boring. PVP is ever changing depending on enemy and teammate skill, it engaging and needs attention.
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Thank you, I understand it’s not the most popular game mode but it wouldn’t be becoming increasingly unpopular if they’d put some dang effort into it! All they’re willing to do is have what I suspect to be the Mythic+ balance team tune the classes once in a blue moon. Whoever is doing the tuning has no idea what’s going on, and PvP needs more than just occasional class tuning.
What is the Horrible Dawn place you mentioned? I take it the SLs equivalent is Torghast though right?
Can we finally get a retail pvp server?
It’s like waiting for the dragons to grow up in Game of Thrones, I bet they’ll let PvP dry up into a withered old raisin then eventually they just say, ok here’s 1 pvp server for what’s left of you guys to fit into. Have fun we’re never tuning anything again, then WoW pvp will be like Diablo2 PvP all 1 shotty and whack, but at least we’ll be together lol
Easily the most interesting mode of play for my taste.