Pvp is a huge failure

SoD has the lowest skill cap in any iteration of WoW. You cannot improve against being 1-shot. You often can’t kite in a group PvP setting.

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I’d like to see more opportunities for defensive gearing. Resistances could work better. Even if I wear some shadow resist gear, bfd trinket, weapon, and mage armor and magic absorption talent it is all negated by the wsg trinket and accomplishes nothing.

Cloth with more armor, like ironweave, is cool too. It is dumb to go into a bg with - stam and 0 stam gear, but at the same time if I put on a set of stam gear as a mage I get 3k hp, do 0 damage, and still die just as fast.

Instead of nerfing the pve fun, why not just give us some defensive lines of progression?

The one thing I’ll never understand about WoW is you grind to get gear that would make your grind better, but once you obtain it the grind is over so you roll an alt or quit. Why can’t those rank 5 bracers be given at rank 2 or 3, put more cosmetic things higher up? Also so much of the gear just sucks.

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Pvp sucks on horde too. This is the worst pvp WoW has ever had

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Very good point. Why does so much of the gear in WoW suck? Why isn’t a substantially larger portion of the total-available-gear more useful?

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Being 1-shot means you didn’t optimize gear for pvp or utilize cc/cds well.

2k hp will get you one shot by more than just shaman, and potentially globaled by a number of classes/specs.

Hell I can clear 2k hp wearing irradiated set

Also damage is high enough that even 3k hp and you can (and will) get globaled pretty easily.

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Sadly there have been much bigger imbalance issues overall in wow history than any OP classes we currently have.

That said, there is something to be said for the quality of the pvp right now being really terrible. Worse, there actually isn’t a good way to fix what is wrong, because runes and rune abilities are the main issues changing the meta. Nearly every pvp fight now is a damage zug… And its not just because damage is so damn high, but also because of the intentional stupidification of the game.

A normal vanilla mage needed to play with extreme control, precision, and set up cast windows… A sod mage tab living bombs every target in 42 yards, and only casts instant proc pyroblasts.

And they aren’t the only zug dotter/cc breaker right now. Every priest is throwing vp and sw:p on a target, every druid right now is balance and moonfiring, every shaman FROSTSHAWKING, every ranged hunter serpent stinging to use chimera, every zug meta lock running around vomiting ineptitude and searing pains at anything that moves. Even rogues are dotting targets now with deadly poison… The result is that there isn’t room to do anything but zug damage.

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Whiners gunna whine

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This is objectively true.

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Never had a shaman in AB with berserking lava burst insta chain lightning you in the middle of a team fight, have you.

This is nonsense.

Also, making a big stink about the difference between being one-shot and globaled is a waste-of-time. If you go full stamina gear, you will die mere-moments-later than if you had diversified your attributes with your gear.

This meta is pure, unadulterated garbage.

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If you take carebear servers out of the mix is a dead heat trending to horde.

Flunderstorm has some good pvp

PVP is a failure for everyone shamans are out of control and this Dev team is no longer present

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Get more stamina gear. go put your defilers gear on and get an arcane mage that isn’t bad

It’s not possible to have enough stamina, unless you’re a shaman, to offset the insane burst damage that is happening. It’s essentially Vanilla level 60 burst against level 40’s. It doesn’t end well for the 40.

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Correct. It is impossible to gear for this meta.

hard disagree

Doesn’t matter. Facts exist. You can be full stam, buffed with every world buff in the game and be globaled. That isn’t up for debate.

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They nerfed other classes to the ground due to health pools? By that logic hunter should never have been touched.