PvP gearing is bad and not fun (HELP)

Maladàth-crushridge · August 18, 2019, 11:51pm

Pvp gear was best for pvp pve was best for pve, but both were ok starting points if you wanted to jump one into the other. How was that not balanced?

Metrotoxin-tichondrius · August 19, 2019, 4:05am

yall really gotta try these low sodium diets, they do wonders…got a whole lot of salt here

Bearheart-illidan · August 19, 2019, 4:13am

5 years of the game sucking warrants it

anon68489589 · August 19, 2019, 4:40am

This made me

Thanks

Outlâw-thaurissan · August 20, 2019, 8:10am

Bump m+ is ok but stop forcing us to raid.

Bòómèr-illidan · August 20, 2019, 1:35pm

Would rather have somebody a bit more educated but she does make a couple of good points.

Landrada-korgath · August 20, 2019, 2:27pm

It’s just insane that this still hasn’t been addressed yet. I don’t understand what the problem is. Warlords of Draenor had PvP vendors and there wasn’t any issue. Just let people spend conquest points on what they want or need jfc BIizzard.

Meadamemnon-tichondrius · August 20, 2019, 4:23pm

The reality is they are not going to add vendors in 1/2 way through an expansion. The best we can hope for is 9.0, they revert back to every other xpac that has ever existed and add vendors.

Every day, we might as well keep posting, and if you go to Blizzcon, be sure to get in the QA and hold their feet to the fire on this.

Ôblivion-drakkari · August 20, 2019, 4:31pm

The problem is that we thought the same on Legion, exactly the same.

It has been a neverending excrement fest with the devs.

Gumbige-kelthuzad · August 20, 2019, 4:49pm

Bump because i genuinely never thought it would get to the point that id be watching arena die off but here we are. All my friends quit because of the way the systems and design intent have gone and its just a bummer.

Ôblivion-drakkari · August 20, 2019, 4:58pm

The few PVP Guilds in my server died off so fast, all of them are M + Guilds, and it sucks.

Lothlòria-mannoroth · September 4, 2019, 12:05pm

Meh this thread died, but having way more fun on SWTOR than I ever did with WOW.

Kostikz-sargeras · September 4, 2019, 1:41pm

you know what has better PvP gearing then BFA? — classic

Maladàth-crushridge · September 4, 2019, 2:55pm

I think you forget (or never knew) what it takes to get that high lvl of gear from pvp. Also classic has it’s own problems I just dont feel like dealing with again.
Not saying it wouldnt be fun, but the idea of having to start over again just doesn’t sound too appealing. It’s why I dont last very long in other mmo’s unless RL friends end up giving me gold and crap to start off with when they really want me to play

Gedpriest-queldorei · September 4, 2019, 3:42pm

I wish, but not really true

first Ion said they are delaying all of the pvp gear until raid gear is equivalent. They have zero plans to stick with the real ‘vanilla’ deployment schedule. Hopefully this changes.

second the vanilla pvp gearing was through time based acquisition of honor in comparison to other players on the server PLUS honor decay losing a portion of your accrued total honor per week. It was one of the most horrific grinds imaginable. I should know as I did it.

The old honor decay system was for a blue pvp set which was kinda grindy but then horrific for the epic set which was substantially better than the first 3-4 raid tiers of vanilla until it was utterly outshined by Naxx. Ion plans to change this because he is a raider and he hates the idea of raiders feeling like they have to pvp for gear. Ion basically spits on pvp’ers and dgaf.

Yes BfA’s pvp gearing sucks badly but vanilla’s wasn’t some revolutionary fun gearing system either. PvP gearing starting getting good in BC/Lich King because rated pvp was added with its own separate rewards and the old honor decay system was thrown in the garbage. These dedicated pvp rewards were designed to be the best for pvp but somewhat inferior for pve to avoid driving the two sides into content they’d rather avoid.

It is possible Ion, with his complete disregard for pvp, may throw the honor decay system away in classic as well, just leaving a grindy time gated system to get gear that is more accessible. However they aren’t even releasing this system until raid gear catches up to it.

Ôblivion-drakkari · September 4, 2019, 9:25pm

TBC had much better PVP gearing that Classic and than BFA tho.

Efx-moknathal · September 8, 2019, 1:14am

How did this get down here? Back up top you go.

Neøn-emerald-dream · September 8, 2019, 2:04am

Yes to all. Changes to PvP need to happen if you don’t want to end up like the forgotten diablo 3.

Dwarfwarlock-moon-guard · September 8, 2019, 11:17am

Yes comrade.

Kostikz-sargeras · September 9, 2019, 7:41pm

I am well aware what it takes to get rank 14. I do. Did that long time ago. took months of life, no friends, no fun, just warsong gulch… still better then BFA rulette