PvP gearing is bad and not fun (HELP)

11/01/2018 02:30 AMPosted by Shwergen
We’re still waiting
Just sticky this thread
Any mention of pvp at blizz con? Vendors?
11/03/2018 07:13 AMPosted by Shwergen
Just sticky this thread
Now that blizz con is over you can no longer use that as your excuse for not making drastic changes.

Also adding a vendor on live would have had 0 impact on the tourney.
Still no news on vendors.

Beyond frustrating.
Going to listen to your player base?
11/04/2018 09:18 AMPosted by Gayfarmboy
Still no news on vendors.

Beyond frustrating.
I like how they teased that they're working on something, but didn't say what it was in advance... It's like they know there's going to be a big backlash to it and are keeping it hush hush until it's too late to go back to the drawing board...

I really wish they'd actually communicate instead of just keeping us in the dark.
11/05/2018 03:11 PMPosted by Fox
11/04/2018 09:18 AMPosted by Gayfarmboy
Still no news on vendors.

Beyond frustrating.


I really wish they'd actually communicate instead of just keeping us in the dark.
This system is honestly garbage.

It's as if the devs are incapable of looking at the broader picture of the game.

The only way "predetermined" order works ...is if you literally do 0 other content in the game that grants gear.

Otherwise, the moment LFR opened up it essentially sealed the deal on this loot system breaking down. Much earlier if you were capable of M+4 (not hard) or normal raids.

Their comparisons to MoP ....are vacuous at best. It was a different game.

PvP Power/Resilience, lack of stack templates ... the circumstances that lead to an "order" were completely different.

Even if you want to make the case for an order (there wasn't), unless you were at the upper echelons of PvP....more likely than not you were using it to supplement gaps in gear. Notable exception being weapon and trinkets (trinkets mind you which you cannot target in this system).

So yeah....

OF course I am jaded as someone who only occasionally dabbles in PvP....but this system isn't helping me feel interested in starting.
11/03/2018 02:04 PMPosted by Kanaloä
Any mention of pvp at blizz con? Vendors?


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Yes this gearing system really isn’t fun. I miss conquest points...
REAL honor and REAL conquest points back plz with vendors like it always was because this is just stupid. Ive seen arguments of pve folks saying well i cant earn points and buy what i want. Then pvp. It was like that for so many years, all my friends come back and quit within the same 30 days because "wtf man where is the vendors now? .... ehhhh yea sorry there isnt any its all RNG now" holy hell does that go over well and of course all my irl friends i played with that i got to come back for BFA havent played since wod. Well they all quit again because what is this artifact power trash, why isnt there vendors, oh man this new race looks sweet wait wtf i cant even make one whyyyyyy? No thank you.

*patch 9.0 this new sweet entire CLASS to play that sims out the highest in game in healing, tanking and dps but you need pathfinder and exalted with 19 new factions to play incoming*
11/06/2018 09:26 PMPosted by Frostyx
REAL honor and REAL conquest points back plz with vendors like it always was because this is just stupid. Ive seen arguments of pve folks saying well i cant earn points and buy what i want. Then pvp. It was like that for so many years, all my friends come back and quit within the same 30 days because "wtf man where is the vendors now? .... ehhhh yea sorry there isnt any its all RNG now" holy hell does that go over well and of course all my irl friends i played with that i got to come back for BFA havent played since wod. Well they all quit again because what is this artifact power trash, why isnt there vendors, oh man this new race looks sweet wait wtf i cant even make one whyyyyyy? No thank you.

*patch 9.0 this new sweet entire CLASS to play that sims out the highest in game in healing, tanking and dps but you need pathfinder and exalted with 19 new factions to play incoming*


This hits home pretty good. I haven’t played since BC and I returned for BFA. I was so fricken’ confused. I looked for pvp vendors for 30 mins before I realized they don’t exist, then I asked, well how the !@#$ do I choose gear? The answer had my dome piece boggled, it’s random? Wtf do you mean it’s random?
There are no talent trees either?
I’m confined to one good talent choice in each row?
My items have no sockets and I can’t enchant anything?
Why the %^-* am I dying in 6 seconds or less as a warlock?
And also... wtf happened to this game?
11/06/2018 10:04 PMPosted by Ramrodjones
11/06/2018 09:26 PMPosted by Frostyx
REAL honor and REAL conquest points back plz with vendors like it always was because this is just stupid. Ive seen arguments of pve folks saying well i cant earn points and buy what i want. Then pvp. It was like that for so many years, all my friends come back and quit within the same 30 days because "wtf man where is the vendors now? .... ehhhh yea sorry there isnt any its all RNG now" holy hell does that go over well and of course all my irl friends i played with that i got to come back for BFA havent played since wod. Well they all quit again because what is this artifact power trash, why isnt there vendors, oh man this new race looks sweet wait wtf i cant even make one whyyyyyy? No thank you.

*patch 9.0 this new sweet entire CLASS to play that sims out the highest in game in healing, tanking and dps but you need pathfinder and exalted with 19 new factions to play incoming*


This hits home pretty good. I haven’t played since BC and I returned for BFA. I was so fricken’ confused. I looked for pvp vendors for 30 mins before I realized they don’t exist, then I asked, well how the !@#$ do I choose gear? The answer had my dome piece boggled, it’s random? Wtf do you mean it’s random?
There are no talent trees either?
I’m confined to one good talent choice in each row?
My items have no sockets and I can’t enchant anything?
Why the %^-* am I dying in 6 seconds or less as a warlock?
And also... wtf happened to this game?


I can just imagine the look on your face as you were finding this out ;)
Vendors please
Here I was half expecting World of Warcraft switching to Mobile platforms now.
11/05/2018 03:11 PMPosted by Fox
11/04/2018 09:18 AMPosted by Gayfarmboy
Still no news on vendors.

Beyond frustrating.
I like how they teased that they're working on something, but didn't say what it was in advance... It's like they know there's going to be a big backlash to it and are keeping it hush hush until it's too late to go back to the drawing board...

I really wish they'd actually communicate instead of just keeping us in the dark.
11/06/2018 10:53 PMPosted by Lokkedown
11/06/2018 10:04 PMPosted by Ramrodjones
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This hits home pretty good. I haven’t played since BC and I returned for BFA. I was so fricken’ confused. I looked for pvp vendors for 30 mins before I realized they don’t exist, then I asked, well how the !@#$ do I choose gear? The answer had my dome piece boggled, it’s random? Wtf do you mean it’s random?
There are no talent trees either?
I’m confined to one good talent choice in each row?
My items have no sockets and I can’t enchant anything?
Why the %^-* am I dying in 6 seconds or less as a warlock?
And also... wtf happened to this game?


I can just imagine the look on your face as you were finding this out ;)


ah dude you have no clue. I'm stilled confused as to what happened to this game, and then I got on the forums to see if anyone else felt the same way, and yeah, they sure fricken' do. Doesn't really seem like blizzard gives a !@#$ though. I'm sticking around for a minute though to see if warlocks get some viable buffs and if we get vendors back, or more accessible gearing. If that happens i'll be good with everything.
Good job blizz. Fox quit bc of ur greediness. I’ll be soon to follow