PVP from a twink players perspective, & my solution to fixing it

PVP Battlegrounds
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Why don’t you two just get a room so you can kiss and make up already, so the rest of us can have an actual conversation?

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You’re right, he is clearly trolling so I will just respond to everyone else.

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I do not kiss dudes lol :P. And I just like pointing out his hypocrisy.

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I’m a girl :kissing_heart: sorry, had to :joy:

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mmorpg. Many men online role playing girls.

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People in these forums have actually talked to me and can attest, but you never believe me anyway :wink: Gosh, okay done now

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not unless I could crocodile dundee you. And that aint gonna happen.

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Idk, I can really only comment on 60-69 where numbers can get really skewed. These are some recent SS’s before my time ran out:
imgur .com/a/HhZSuyv

There are MANY games like this that I didn’t SS, I really only took these because I so drastically outdamaged 69 warrior twinks. These games are very constant but I don’t bother to SS them. That last one is pretty common too (two 69 twinks were on my team, causing that many afks routinely).

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So let’s think about this for a minute. Every game is like that for you because it’s you. Me, as a leveler, doesn’t run into that all that much. There really aren’t as many of you around as you think, or it’s the time of day I’m queuing.

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It’s the players aim or intent, as to why they enter the Battlegrounds that supports the split. Twinks should* primarily want to compete while levelers are of a much more casual nature and tend to be preoccupied by Netflix or VrV or what ever they are doing to help them cope with the leveling grind. The twink community should be up in arms about having to deal with inactive or unmotivated players.

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Right, but that’s why I asked why Jwl & my own recollections are shrugged off. We are vouching that games get terrible, we aren’t just exaggerating or making it up. 60-69 is nearly ruined, it really is just alliance 69 premades destroying most of the time, rarely a 69 horde premade will challenge them. It’s gotten very, very bad. I don’t queue anymore because I’m tired of getting the ally 69s on my team / don’t find merged games challenging. Almost no 60s are queueing because of this, the 69s legit killed the bracket lol. If 60 twinks don’t even want to queue, imagine levelers

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Hah! “actual twinks” without posting on the actual twink. Priest is pretty strong in 69s right? 69s is still fairly balanced outside of premades. Two warriors on me I don’t stand a chance unless I get peels, doesn’t matter what their gear is unless they are missing slots or they are protection. Now, a monk or shaman on the other hand can’t really do anything to me even with gear. I still say that recollection is a little murky, especially with the influence classes have even in that bracket. Gear helps quite a bit, but not as much you would lead it to suggest.

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I assume that’s referred to me? I posted a screenshot with over 1400ap “selfbuffed” (just from my own gear and enchants). I’m sorry but gear is everything especially in our bracket.

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From your pov though. The levelers who encounter you, probably won’t the next game or the next. It’s been like that for me. But like I said, I don’t play “primetime” as people call it.

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I would very much doubt the legitimacy of that without a ton of stacked procs, food, flasks(the procs would have to be broken as well). None of my lower twinks with attack power and intellect get anywhere close to this with gear and enchants. Most hover from 600-900 something and the higher one barely breaks 1000.

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This too. Premades, even of non twinks, will likely dominate the match. If you’re a twink and you just premade, ofc you’re gonna own those BGs. Not all twinks do that or play at the same time as other twinks. Max level premades at least mostly face other premades. It hasn’t been like that lower level since so many brackets

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Why would I lie about that? lol. And yes it is utilizing broken items, which is why I emphasize that gear is very important.

I agree with this 100%. Premades with comms are typically a very hard encounter. I don’t disagree with you on most things or think that separating queues is a miracle fix, I’m really just baffled why twinks aren’t acknowledged as being superiorly OP (in my experience).

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I don’t disagree that the procs should be tuned down, cookie cutter gear is no fun for anyone. But that said, they do appear to be doing this. I could see an argument on something needing(even drastic) to happen if nothing was being done, but they are actually changing stuff for once in a long time. If premades are shutting down bgs, that includes a different subject rather than just focusing on another subject that has it’s own problems and solutions. And as such im pretty sure each subject should be focused on specifically rather than interchangeably as they are fairly different subjects even if they overlap.

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I mean they are but 1 or 2 alone won’t win a match with a bad group. They might get a lot of damage/kills but it all depends on their team and the other team.

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Juga is more invested in increasing her post count than actually having good-faith discussions, she’s a fixture of these forums and emblematic of why they’re hard to take seriously.

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