PVP fight ending in PVE durability loss as a form of griefing

[Shieldoffait-faerlina]

again, this answer is ad hoc, beacuse a player can camp you, damage you down to 1%, stun you and wait for a monster to walk by and finish you causeing a PVE durability loss. again your wrong beautia.

[Thunderkoww-mankrik]

@Beautia-azuresong

If someone camped you, you’d lose 10% each time you’re ganked. This is the reason. Every ten PvP deaths would result in horrific losses and you’re kind of expected to die a lot on a PvP server from PvP.

Blizzard isn’t stupid.

Exactly. WoW was meant to be a casual, entry level MMO in a time when in most games death meant total inventory loss.

[Supertroll-atiesh]

@Hethrmcdoodl-faerlina

they should fix this mechanich

The fix is to git gud.

[Beautia-azuresong]

Exactly Mr. Cow.

Now I’m heading out because people are not listening to the answers, but rather just want to bang pots and call anyone with answers toxic. I’ll let them bang their pots.

[Shieldoffait-faerlina]

Beautia, your accusing me of doing what you are dong. you are being toxic, and you are banging on posts. you have not given even one answer to why blizzard would make a difference between pve and pvp deaths in relation to durability loss.

[Thunderkoww-mankrik]

@Beautia-azuresong

Now I’m heading out because people are not listening to the answers, but rather just want to bang pots and call anyone with answers toxic. I’ll let them bang their pots.

Yeah, these forums are a real echo chamber of whining because people abuse the flag function anytime someone disagrees with them.

[Thunderkoww-mankrik]

@Beautia-azuresong

call anyone with answers toxic.

@Shieldoffait-faerlina

you are being toxic

Holy baby Jesus.

[Shieldoffait-faerlina]

OK thudnerkoww. then you explain why blizzard would make a difference between pvp and pve durability loss if the developers did not intend on players exploiting game mechanics to cause a pve durability loss during a pvp interaction?

[Thunderkoww-mankrik]

@Shieldoffait-faerlina

explain why blizzard would make a difference between pvp and pve durability loss

This has already been explained to you. And the explanation you were given is the correct one.

[Shieldoffait-faerlina]

ok quote this correct explination thunderkoww

[Thunderkoww-mankrik]

Here you go:

@Beautia-azuresong

To prevent you from having your armor borked during a PvP instance.

@Beautia-azuresong

If someone camped you, you’d lose 10% each time you’re ganked. This is the reason. Every ten PvP deaths would result in horrific losses and you’re kind of expected to die a lot on a PvP server from PvP.

Blizzard isn’t stupid.

Contrast this to PvE. You’re not really expected to just die over and over again until you get lucky. So a death penalty exists there.

Blizzard probably didn’t want PvP deaths to be so punishing, otherwise that would discourage PvP and remove an element of engagement from the game.

[Shieldoffait-faerlina]

yes that is why they made a differnce between pvp and pve deaths thundercoww. but you didnt answer my question. my question was

OK thudnerkoww. then you explain why blizzard would make a difference between pvp and pve durability loss if the developers did not intend on players exploiting game mechanics to cause a pve durability loss during a pvp interaction?

[Thunderkoww-mankrik]

Your question doesn’t actually make sense.

[Shieldoffait-faerlina]

My topic is. that a player is exploiting game mechanichs when he intentionaly uses the enviornent during pvp to cause durability loss to another player

my supporting evidence is the fact that blizzard created a difference between a pvp death and pve death in relation to durability loss.

your argument is that blizzard did intend on 1 player causing durability loss on another by using the environment for a killing blow

i am asking you to explain why blizzard made a difference between a pvp death and pve death in relation to durability loss if they intended on 1 player using the environment for a killing blow to intentionally cause durability loss on another player.

you and beautia have not given that answer

[Thunderkoww-mankrik]

@Shieldoffait-faerlina

he intentionaly uses the enviornent during pvp to cause durability loss to another player

How do you know this was his intention?

@Shieldoffait-faerlina

my supporting evidence is the fact that blizzard created a difference between a pvp death and pve death in relation to durability loss.

This is not supporting evidence. You are constructing a circular argument.

@Shieldoffait-faerlina

your argument is that blizzard did intend on 1 player causing durability loss on another by using the environment for a killing blow

Uh, no?

@Shieldoffait-faerlina

you and beautia have not given that answer

Because your question still does not make sense. Is English your second language? We might just be having translation issues.

[Wunderland-grobbulus]

People should be able to make your gear red in pvp.

If it were up to me there would be no guards and all graveyards would be very open and further from the town. Also horde couldn’t hide for 41 levels in their zones.

[Shieldoffait-faerlina]

again, all you have done is insult and not given a legitement response thunderkoww. answer the question

[Thunderkoww-mankrik]

@Shieldoffait-faerlina

again, all you have done is insult and not given a legitement response thunderkoww.

I haven’t insulted you.

@Shieldoffait-faerlina

answer the question

When you phrase it in a way that makes sense and isn’t a muddled, circular mess, I’d be more than happy to.

[Shieldoffait-faerlina]

Thunderkoww. did blizzard developers intend on a player intentionally causing PVE durability loss to another player by using the environment to cause a killing blow?

and if yes, why did they make a difference between a pvp death and a pve death in relation to durability loss in the first place?

[Thunderkoww-mankrik]

The reason for a difference in durability loss has been explained to you.

As far as Blizzard’s intentions, I am not aware of any statement from Blizzard on the matter.

However, this is the way the game has worked for 15 years. This is the way it was in the original release and the way it still is in Retail, as far as I’m aware. So whether intentional or not, it has not warranted attention from Blizzard and you are the first player I’ve seen complain about it since I started playing in 2010.