How about instead of crying about how other people run their groups you start your own?
6- screw m+
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easy fix screw m+
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Yea pretty much, lol.
It sucked that they wanted a higher rating for stuff as low as a 2-5 but it’s their key afterall and I’m not entitled to an invite.
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It’s a toxic game design, and blizzard has neglected for years everyone’s pleas for them to remove the key downgrade for failure to make the timer.
There isn’t enough credit given to just how negligent blizzard is.
There isn’t enough credit given to just how toxic the community is!
There are better game designs that don’t encourage toxicity.
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Yes, but that’s not what I asked.
Lets say you’re the group maker and you have one spot left, you see a 450 Havoc and a 445 Arms warrior which one you inviting?
I remember having this discussion with someone and they replied “how can I get rating if noone will invite me?” But sure enough they were trying to go straight to like +10 keys… because they KNEW they were good enoguh.
Nah I told him sorry but, noone else knows you you need to do +2s then 3s and build up. Of course you can skip steps like start with all 4s then maybe get into 6-7 and then jump to 10.
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It’s such a simple exercise of “walk a mile in my shoes”. Play the role of party leader. There’s a dozen people 4 above 1000 rating 8 below 1000 rating. The very player expecting an invite will ALWAYS PICK THE 4 PLAYERS ABOVE 1000.
How they never comprehend this is beyond me.
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Then compound the problem with, no invites this week if you have an io below 1.5k.
But you have a key, start a group and build it up. Even better you can pick all of those poor, neglected, 100 io score players and show that you’re a better person!
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They don’t want to do work though. For some reason making a group is too daunting for many. It’s not like it is even difficult, but people do not want to even try to put a group together even if it solves their invitational issue.
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the 25 DKs and DHs who whisper you wishing you fail because you didnt invite them, for example.
This is the best way and it has multiple, multiple benefits for you and also everyone else in your guild. Find a chill guild, work with chill people, do chill keys and before you know it you start looking forward to logging on every night, with your new guild friends and having a blast and for some reason those keys are now 17’s-18’s and soon to be 20’s.
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Lol They’re more than welcome to make their own groups. It’s pretty rare I get some noob raging I didnt pick them over the geared competent player, but it’s a simple ignore whenever they do.
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Yes but like grades in school they’re the only data point that approximates some level of qualification out of a pool of applicants. Otherwise just close your eyes and pick someone at random is the alternative. How would you make the choice?
It’s the same in the real world…there’s probably hundreds of more qualified applicants missing out on jobs because they slacked off in school or college while some other less talented dude just put in more work or just got lucky. But how else can you identify someone out of a pool of applicants?
It’s not a perfect system but the alternative is to have no system, which is what we have in LFG. And for anyone not happy with their rate of acceptance, you can get a key from the m+ NPC in Valdrakken now and fill your own group. This seems to be something people are terrified to do (maybe they don’t want to be the one making the decisions on accepting applicants) so they keep trying to apply and keep getting rejected.
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My s3 IO was around 3.3k and my current ilvl is 454 lock. I tried pugging for 17 for hours. I too am getting decline over and over until I dm and ask why they do that some replied “your ilvl is too low” or simply dont respond but from the comp make up I see outlaw, Bm hunter and havoc. They want meta and aug at from key 13 onwards.
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Warrior really can’t unless you count a 3 min cd that you have to drop 3 points to get. Intim is really not an option late. But we do low damage anyways despite having no utility to really speak of (for 2/4 affixs) that another class does not have or a better alternative for.
They need do buckle up and just figure out a way to make this queable like they did for Pvp with Solo Shuffle. Each group a tank, healer, melee, ranged capped at 2 of one type so you don’t get 3 melee or three ranged in one party.
Have it be easier but drop slightly lower rewards. I know it’s old school but I like to actually farm my bis. So I’ll run my key as long as it’s a dungeon I need but I won’t if it’s not.
It blows my mind they designed the game to be competitive yet refuse to bring things into a margin of parody so every class and spec can be within a margin of each other on both damage and party utility.
Before you say it. I am in a guild. We do run keys together. They are not always online when I am or we have people sitting out because their is not enough tanks and heals to go around. The game design needs to stop getting in the way of people that just want to play just for the sake of having friction.
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Pugging anything is regularly abysmal mate. Grab a group to run with. Heck, if you can play during the day ill run with you as i am also relegated to the pug-life
Groups in here make me sad sometimes when I’m playing Ret.
“I’ll go top”
“What do you mean?”
Oh… oh no.