So ptr changes, RTB is 25 energy, the premed bugg and shadowstrike bugs appear to be fixed.
Enveloping shadow talent is is only .5 now instead of 1 sec.
venom rush is 8 energy instead of 5
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All good changes, but Enveloping Shadows needs to be nerfed further. Two charges of Shadow Dance equals too much burst and too many Cheap Shots, which is likely why Subtlety doesn’t have Gouge back yet.
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Premed still bugged for me. Is slightly less obvious though with the Enveloping nerf. I could still get SnD over 2m, it just takes longer to do without dance every 14s.
But, yea, RIP survival rogue. 
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hmm, I had it proc with my 1st charge of shadow dance, but I didn’t it to stack like it did before. I’ll have to test more.
Did you re-pick your talents? This hotfix reset them for some reason, so maybe you still had the buff from previous logout?
Seems like all reasonable changes. 
I personally don’t like the changes to Enveloping Shadows. I think its power should be relocated to somewhere else, not just get the nerf and that’s it. Enveloping Shadows was actually a very good talent for PvE and I feel sad it was nerfed.
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I think they nerf it this way instead of outright removing. A complete removal would be difficult to rebalance the entire spec for PVE at this point IMO.
Well, if it stays relatively fast paced I won’t have many complaints, and especially so if we end up getting Gouge and/or other stuff back. I just feel like the standalone nerf is going to impact the overall PvE performance too much, but I say this without any mathematical data. Sims might prove me it’s not that big of a nerf.
What if the 0.5 cooldown reduction was added to Deepening Shadows baseline and Enveloping Shadows got reworked? No second charge. Or what if Shadow Dance was increased to last 10s? 
I’d like if they removed the second charge from enveloping shadows and changed shadow dance to 10 seconds baseline. Tweak damage outside of dance to compensate.
I also think this would be the best route go for. Damage outside of Dance is very low and it plays extremely slow.
Ideally I’d also like a bit more energy regen because I like fast gameplay, say maybe increase Master of Shadows energy by 50 over 6s and removing Secret Technique cost, but that may be dreaming too high. It wouldn’t be too bad though, since we’d only have access to a single Dance charge. I just have no idea what could be done with Shuriken Tornado.
I was a huge fan of ES for PvE, really upped the pace of the spec. Since it’s the best talent in that row by a decent margin a nerf to it just means a nerf to Subtlety as a whole.
They should have buffed Dark Shadows to 35-40% and reworked Alacrity to give either Mastery or Versatility with each stack at 3% instead of 2%. Haste has never been strong for Subtlety so I don’t understand why it’s there.
I don’t like seeing nerfs to talents that increase the fun factor, you don’t often see a talent that is fun and good at the same time.
Another hotfix today, and it looks like SnD from Premed is capped at 46s. but otherwise it seems the same.
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