that was to keep it competitive with the new damage rates of flame/ae
“We asked 100 people what they think should be buffed about their class…”
“Survey says…!”
“BUFF MAGES”
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Also nerf Warlocks.
Just for old time’s sake.
Imagine a mage doing both flamestrike and blizzard in dungeons with your new numbers.
Jeez they removed defensive stance in retail? What the hell is wrong with the retail team? I am so glad there is classic.
im ok with weaving, and if damage rates are to high they can be tuned.
I actually called out a forum poster on this as trolling when they told me…I logged into to check and it is indeed correct. I literally cried when I saw that on my old main…187 days of played time just on that toon, in 5 years of game timeline.
I went back to the thread and apologized. I still can’t believe it myself on some levels.
They already do this. You are just increasing damage to two spells in an aoe rotations for very little reason.
I logged into retail the other day out of curiosity and my druid had four talent trees to choose from. Nothing about retail makes sense to me to be honest.
Can’t even use TC in Prot stance 
We got past this a long time ago, for people like you who cant put 1 and 2 together, the point was to make it possible, like it would be in bc changes.
Thanks for these wonderful suggestions but I’d rather just keep the game the way it is. Maybe let’s talk in 2-3 years.
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some of these changes are needed badly, yesterday. Like reduction in mana costs for shaman and druid. a nerf to mage aoe slow, and more aoe potential from cleave, and rogue class.
I hate it when people, who really want their personal OP change slipped through, disguise it under an avalanche of changes to everything. They call it balance. Point in case, this section.
Arms
- Improved Thunderclap: Reduces the cost of your thunder clap by 3 range and increases its damage by 5% per a rank
Get the eff outta here. If there were ever a balance pass, which I don’t want, this drivel is what you think arms warriors need? This garbage is what you put on a comprehensive balance pass? Take your “I want my pet spec to be super good, better toss in some scraps so everyone agrees” and shove it up your behind.
It gets a bit worse. Defensive Stance wasn’t entirely removed in BfA.
It’s an Arms talent that reduces all damage taken by 20% and dealt by 10% while active.
The class changes should be non-existent, since this is a recreation of an existing time in vanilla and not your vanilla wow fan fiction.
Dude, if you want to mess around with a game, take all this crap to the Modern suggestions forum.
Warlock buffs or I quit!
The ignorance of this statement is unreal.
Do you realize your not playing vanilla, or anything close to it?
No, its not what i think, but you missed an important part of the change i made to warriors above, which was that thunderclap generates more threat in prot stance (assuming its allowed in it with this change as suggested by that aspect of the suggestion).
Fury, and arms ultimately just needed cleave to be changed out to allow for more targets to be hit with it to increase its aoe potential.
as for the rest of arms issues, i think most of it can be solved through itemization.
“You think you do but you don’t.”