PSA for Bear Tanks

Eh, if I make it to naxx I’ll upgrade my threat gear in AQ40 and use that mostly, i’m not MT, i don’t really need the mitigation, and if I make to to Naxx my guild is giving me an Atiesh to take into TBC, where gearing is much more fun.

I’m honestly halfway to quitting right now though, MC is a snoozefest and BWL isn’t much better so we have at LEAST a year of zzzzzz

Rubidium Warhammer (120 armor) + Stitches’ Femur (50 armor)

You don’t need Warden Staff or Ardent Custodian to have competitive stats. Warden Staff is BiS, but not required.

FFS with this discussion, yeah Warden Staff is BiS, for some people that’s worth paying for it and for others it’s not, different players have different goals as simple as that. If you feel you absolutely must have it then be thankful some players don’t value it as highly otherwise it would be even more expensive.

As long as you have a good alternative it’s fine. There has always been some form of BiS items and sure they are nice but it’s never required to have the absolute best at everything, you gain a lot more from just getting better at the game than from a minor small % upgrade to your gear.

Well said honestly, if one drops I’m not going to NOT use, it IS BiS, but i’m not going to go out of my way for a such a minor upgrade.

But some people always will, hell, there’s people that will pay 25 bucks to race change for a 1% dmg increase

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Blizzard better not force TBC (again!) on my classic characters. Let’s not make that mistake again. I don’t care about TBC but for those that do, make them separate servers.

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What happened to Twig of the World tree? Wasn’t that decent for Ferals?

First of all, what you’re suggesting is awful. A green monkey stick would be better. Secondly, there’s numerous good stat stick 2hs you can get out of dungeons.
Crowd pummeler
Mograine’s Might
Ironshod
Impervious Giant
These are just a few of many, if you bother to look.

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Please disregard this PSA.

Tome of Knowledge from the Archivist in Strat live is BiS for offhands. As far as mainhands pick up Ardent Custodian from the AH for 25g

You do more threat than Warden and will get other benefits such as dodge, armor from agi, crit, and AP

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I MT’ed Ony and OTed MC without it. Ardent custodian and Tome of Knowledge are more than enough. I’m sure Twig would’ve done just fine too

My threat was also leaps and bounds above the other feral with warden and the warriors by a massive margin

Discredit it? No. Be a reason to not drop 400g on an item? Absolutely. Unyielding maul is basically Warden Staff, Buy yourself consumes for the next 3 months of raids instead with the 400g you saved instead and you’ll be a better druid in literally every way.

Or just get your epic mount

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I don’t get why people are still claiming bears can tank. You be better off doing dual wield fury/prot. Better threat, better dps, better cool downs. Easier to gear. It’s a no brainier.

Plus bears didn’t become viable tell wolk.

This must be your first time. Welcome to vanilla

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Private server is different and wrong. Still like i stated on bears became a thing in wolk.

Private server? That was Sunday lmfao

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Totem of Infliction is better for Alliance bears. Quest reward off-hand that procs damage on being hit like a shield spike, and has the same armor.

Than what? Tome?

armor is usually weighted at .23 per point giving a 50 armor offhand a value of 11.5

Tome is 8 all stats. Str = 1 Agi ~1.6 Stam = 1

Giving Tome a weight of ~29 in bear. Almost triple the value

No. Stitches bone. Was replying to OP.

:yum::yum::yum:

With all things considered, if you can’t get Warden Staff or don’t want to, Ardent Custodian and Tome of Knowledge are second best possible right now, with about 2/3rd of the tanking value.

If that last 1/3rd is worth 400g then by all means get it.

otherwise unyielding maul provides 95% of the tanking value Warden does for free when DM drops

And once you have your epic mount?

I can’t think of many things much more useful than a weapon which will be your BIS for, let’s face it, what is likely to be close to 6 months.

Sooo… only warriors can tank raids but dr00ds are simply not tanks without a Warden staff…

wth are you people smoking?

This is not true. In AQ our scaling starts capping off and we have to shed Armor for Stamina and TPS stats because our present scaling is off the charts. Snag Atal’ai Spaulders and you’re wearing a piece of gear that is the equivalent of 977 Armor in Dire Bear Form with Thick Hide. The highest Armor any Plate item can ever have is 722 from Tier 3, or 794 with Toughness.

There’s a lot of swing in our stats right now because if you go heavy TPS, you lose quite a bit of Armor and Stamina, but that’s just fine, nothing really threatens any Tank that isn’t playing or spec’d stupidly. Once BWL hits, we can bridge the EH and TPS gear sets a lot more with amazing pieces like Taut Dragonhide Shoulders and Boots of Shadowflame.

We scale fantastically, we just get fewer pieces between MC and BWL than Warriors while being compensated for starting waaaaaaaaay ahead of them with a modicum of 5man farming.

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