PSA: Creatures now scale with item level #2

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4317
07/12/2017 07:32 PMPosted by Aladrath


And this is why I cancelled my sub. That and being required to do a raid in order to get flight.


I'm finding mixed information about that. There are a few posts on Wowhead pathfinder that states you do not have to do any dungeons or raids to get flight. It would be nice to have a confirmation on it one way or the other.
4318
07/15/2017 06:15 AMPosted by Dljman
07/12/2017 07:32 PMPosted by Aladrath


And this is why I cancelled my sub. That and being required to do a raid in order to get flight.


I'm finding mixed information about that. There are a few posts on Wowhead pathfinder that states you do not have to do any dungeons or raids to get flight. It would be nice to have a confirmation on it one way or the other.


You have to do at least LFR Xavius for one of the parts of the Good Suramaritan meta achievement, the quest A Growing Crisis. The biggest gripe about it at the time was that LFR didn't open until after Normal/Heroic did. While players knew Pathfinder had a second part after finishing the first, they weren't happy that they (LFR raiders) were forced to wait to finish bothering with that quest so they could continue onward after that quest chain when non-LFR raiders suffered no such forced break.
4319
Item scaling is why WOW has been bleeding subs at an exponential rate lately.
4320
07/14/2017 09:03 PMPosted by Anareiel
07/12/2017 07:39 PMPosted by Elenstelle
Blizzard refuses to listen to the playerbase again and again.
CRZ? Almost universally hated; Blizzard refuses to listen.
Sharding? Universally hated; Blizzard refuses to listen.
ilvl scaling? Universally hated; Once again, Blizzard refuses to listen.

The Dev. team needs to wake up and smell the coffee, Legion was the Hail Mary expansion...I don't think they will get a second chance at this and yet they keep pulling crap like this.


Agreed.

I'm beginning to believe that this game's days are numbered.
Too much being removed or distorted from its original concept: too many long-time, long-term players leaving.

Too many coming in who think this is a MOBA or FPS type of game and constantly make posts that, in essence, want this game reduced to instant raids for everyone.

Scaled mobs in Classic zones. RiP RP.


You know your days are numbered
Count them one by one
Like knotches in the handle of an outlaws gun
You can out run the devil if you try
But you'll never outrun the hands of time

And in time there shirly come a day
And in time all things shall pass away
And in time you'll come back, some say
To live once more
Or die once more
But in time your time will be no more
4321
07/29/2017 08:47 PMPosted by Gunnarr
07/14/2017 09:03 PMPosted by Anareiel
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Agreed.

I'm beginning to believe that this game's days are numbered.
Too much being removed or distorted from its original concept: too many long-time, long-term players leaving.

Too many coming in who think this is a MOBA or FPS type of game and constantly make posts that, in essence, want this game reduced to instant raids for everyone.

Scaled mobs in Classic zones. RiP RP.


You know your days are numbered
Count them one by one
Like knotches in the handle of an outlaws gun
You can out run the devil if you try
But you'll never outrun the hands of time

And in time there shirly come a day
And in time all things shall pass away
And in time you'll come back, some say
To live once more
Or die once more
But in time your time will be no more


Do not go gentle into that good night
Dylan Thomas, 1914 - 1953

Do not go gentle into that good night,
Old age should burn and rave at close of day;
Rage, rage against the dying of the light.

Though wise men at their end know dark is right,
Because their words had forked no lightning they
Do not go gentle into that good night.

Good men, the last wave by, crying how bright
Their frail deeds might have danced in a green bay,
Rage, rage against the dying of the light.

Wild men who caught and sang the sun in flight,
And learn, too late, they grieved it on its way,
Do not go gentle into that good night.

Grave men, near death, who see with blinding sight
Blind eyes could blaze like meteors and be gay,
Rage, rage against the dying of the light.
4322
My biggest point of contention isn't with what they changed, it's how they did it. In the broadest sense I can manage:

If you say you aren't going to do something, but go ahead and do it without explaining why, you don't give much reason for future trust.

If you plan on changing anything, whether for perceived good or bad, providing some sort of narrative to it would work wonders. Not to mention it's really not all that difficult to do.

Pay me to do it. I have no qualms whatsoever telling the community about upcoming changes, as long as I'm provided with the necessary information to do that job to a acceptable degree. Or make me a nice macro for /shrug emotes and emojis. It would be more than the community has gotten this.. 6 months?.. year?.. dev team.. multiple xpacs even..
4323
I guess I just really shouldn't bother with upgrading my gear in this game now. I mean, it will happen as I play, but I see no reason to prioritize it at all.
4324
08/12/2017 12:51 AMPosted by Eulogie
I guess I just really shouldn't bother with upgrading my gear in this game now. I mean, it will happen as I play, but I see no reason to prioritize it at all.


If you get whatever level of gear you need to enter whatever raids/dungeons you wish todo, then post that there is not much point imho.

iLvL scaling is just a royal piss off.
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I had left, did this get fixed?

I am a 116 Paladin right now. When I fight a mob like Jambani Chosen for example or any other, I have to fight long enough to perform two Templar's Verdicts.
When you level up to max and have gear, does it take only one or does the stuff all scale up with igear again?
4326
I told you all if you let them get by with level scaling, iLvl scaling was next.

Exactly what about they don't want you to feel like you've earned anything, ever did you not understand?
4327
Necro thread is necro.
4328
10/29/2018 08:42 PMPosted by Bajadin
I had left, did this get fixed?

I am a 116 Paladin right now. When I fight a mob like Jambani Chosen for example or any other, I have to fight long enough to perform two Templar's Verdicts.
When you level up to max and have gear, does it take only one or does the stuff all scale up with igear again?


"Fixed" would imply that something is broken.

Blizzard doesn't believe it's broken, so what does that tell you?

I don't believe that ilvl scaling is an issue (to a point), but it's obvious that it's over done. World mobs should only scale up to ivl 315-320 so those who get higher ilvls could feel like they're becoming more powerful instead of more proficient.
4329
My biggest problem isnt fighting the mobs but the aggro table size when on mount moving to next objective. For most of games lifetime mobs were not aggroing near roads and paths. That is not so anymore. This to me is a bad thing. I watch as I run away from chasing mob and they just disappear. Which mean mobs are coming out of nowhere to knock you off mount(I know Coarse Leather Barding and you wont get knocked off, but you still lose water walking or water Strider running even if aggro isnt near you but hits you still) . Keep mobs away from roads and lower aggro tables some and I would be happy.
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10/29/2018 08:56 PMPosted by Unicronn
10/29/2018 08:42 PMPosted by Bajadin
I had left, did this get fixed?

I am a 116 Paladin right now. When I fight a mob like Jambani Chosen for example or any other, I have to fight long enough to perform two Templar's Verdicts.
When you level up to max and have gear, does it take only one or does the stuff all scale up with igear again?


"Fixed" would imply that something is broken.

Blizzard doesn't believe it's broken, so what does that tell you?

I don't believe that ilvl scaling is an issue (to a point), but it's obvious that it's over done. World mobs should only scale up to ivl 315-320 so those who get higher ilvls could feel like they're becoming more powerful instead of more proficient.


Agree.
4331
10/29/2018 08:54 PMPosted by Valhallen
Necro thread is necro.


It is just as apt today as the day they implemented it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=owT6Kj_bnf4
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4332
Well I am leaving again, then.

Laters
4333
10/29/2018 09:08 PMPosted by Ralanbék
10/29/2018 08:54 PMPosted by Valhallen
Necro thread is necro.


It is just as apt today as the day they implemented it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=owT6Kj_bnf4


Neat. A like for you, sir.
4334
Holy necro
4335
10/29/2018 08:42 PMPosted by Bajadin
I had left, did this get fixed?


Nope. It feels just as bad as predicted.
4336
10/29/2018 09:08 PMPosted by Ralanbék
10/29/2018 08:54 PMPosted by Valhallen
Necro thread is necro.


It is just as apt today as the day they implemented it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=owT6Kj_bnf4


That video is epic egg on their face.
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