First time warrior here, I kinda speed leveled this dude just to try something new. I plan on using this guy in duels, 1v1 wpvp or random BG shenanigans.
I don’t know anything about warriors, I just wanted to go prot and be a brick wall.
Doing damage isn’t a huge goal of mine, moreso I just want to be an unstoppable monster absorbing all kinds of punishment.
I’m not really aiming for any kind of rated PvP or minmaxing CC/DMG.
I’m just looking for any kind of advice on talents or how I actually play this dude in PvP.
Macros, tips, things like that.
Like would I ever cast rend when I can thunderclap for free?
Why whirlwind when I can Revenge?
I feel kind of lost because I leveled as prot and never really needed to learn how to use my defensives since I was a monster the whole leveling process.
Sorry for the wall of text.
TLDR: I have no idea how to play prot warrior and want to PvP, pls help
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A couple things.
- Never rend it is applied by thunderclap.
- Revenge replaces whirlwind for AoE pretty much
- If you care mostly about being a live lord, focus more on mastery (on my geared prot warrior I have a 52% chance to critically block and with colossus hero spec it blocks 100% damage when I critically block)
- Take spell block as a talent for fighting casters, 30 seconds of blocking spells with the above mastery focus basically makes you almost immune to casters (I have this macroed into my shield charge so it’s up as soon as I jump into an enemy team)
- Macro shield block and ignore pain into other abilities as they are not on the global cooldown
- I also macro avatar with demoralizing shout (with the PvP talent you can use this a lot and it’s a nice bump in rage when you hit avatar)
I’m sure there are a lot more tips and tricks others can share but these are some of the top ones I used for my prot warrior focussing on survivability.
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Some of these are genius, thank you! I’ve got some testing to do for sure!
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Thanks for this. I was interested in prot as well for WPvP and epic BGs.
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I’m getting some gear, and need to work on gems and enchants.
I’ve been running some BGs and I feel like I just melt. I never feel like I have enough rage to keep ignore pain where I want it, and I feel like I’m doing negative dmg. Any class can just self heal through me for the most part.
I’m gonna keep up the grind, but the desire to log in and get rolled over and over is tough. I guess I just crate farm to really fill out my gear.
I’m sure it’s a gear and skill issue still at this point, but it feels kind of bleak as there’s really not much info out there that I can find about people trying the prot route.
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Yeah gear and enchants will help a bunch. I see you’re splitting your stats between haste and crit, that will lower your survivability, I went full Mastery. With today’s buffs I have a 55% chance to critically block now so I basically cut my damage received down a huge amount.
For rage issues to get more ignore pain try using Charge, Shield Charge and Demoralizing Shout as much as possible as they help with rage a lot as well. You’ll find tier 4 set helps with survivability as well as giving you shield walls, extra damage and guaranteed crits on shield slam with reduced cooldown on shield charge.
I looked up your character, I wouldn’t bother taking ravager or any talents connected to it. Take the Thunderlord talent to significantly reduce the cooldown of Demoralizing Shout, especially since you’re running mountain thane. Then also take Unstoppable Force to buff up Avatar, you’ll basically be able to spam Thunder Clap which will trigger Thunderlord. You would be able to Demoralizing Shout every 15-20 seconds if you also take the PvP talent. That’ll be huge for damage reduction and rage generation.
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I’ll check it out when I get home from work tonight. I’ll be honest, I just love ravager as an ability.
I sort of feel like I have keybind overload and I’m trying to figure out something that works intuitively for me so I’ve been kind of looking for more passive skills over actives.
For gear, I’ve been mostly just getting whatever conquest/blood token stuff I can for now.
I was following some guides and advice I saw that said mastery is our least desired PvP stat, to the point people are using “cursed gems” that I didn’t even know existed to lower mastery and give higher stats for vers
Fair enough, I think it depends on what you’re trying to do. My advice was more based around survivability over damage output. Mastery has been good for that. Icy veins for prot PvP also suggests going with mastery ring enchants and gems that’s where I based my initial secondary stat focus on.
For myself, playing as a tank in PvP, I’m not looking for damage output really, I’m more focused on surviving for objectives, support and disruption playstyles. If you’re looking to do some decent damage maybe haste and crit is the way to go!
It really depends on what you wanna do in PvP, my mindset is if I wanted to do damage I’d be playing Arms or Fury haha.
Tank is def my overall goal, but it would be cool to wear people down after awhile lol.
It’s been a learning experience, which is mostly what I’m after. I just need to learn it a bit more and stop being scared to try new stuff with it.
Your help has been awesome and I really appreciate it.
Yeah, eventually you’ll get there. I can usually take on most things one on one as a tank. Casters as a whole are pretty challenging, especially ones with lots of roots.
One thing I’d recommend as a prot tank is helping more in team fights and less on soloing. Prot warrior doesn’t have quite the same kit as say a blood DK or Guardian Druid for soloing. But they offer a lot with things like intervene to save a healer, dragon charge for disruption in a team fight, thunderstruck for rooting enemies (especially melee on your healers) and Morale Killer for 25% damage reduction for multiple enemy players for your whole team. Not to mention multiple AoE stuns and an AoE fear.
Might just be an adjustment in how you play and some practice to figure out what works for you. The most fun I had recently was in an Ashran with 48M health, we got the enemy team to the bridge at their base and I just kept dragon charging through them knocking half the team off either side of the bridge. I ended up with like 450m healing done and like 700m damage by the end of it as well and it really helped me figure when to bust defensive cooldowns and how to avoid pressing too far in and dying.