wow this really became a prot pally thing on a unwanted and unnecessary warrior nerf.
As a note to the pally fans saying the utility has been there since SL, not correct, i used to tank prot pally back in WotLK and pally was already high utility back then. That the utility was improved/increased and damage went nuts in TWW does not make it correct, much like giving VDH as much CC through the 2x sigils in DF was also not correct, what it did, was screwed tanking for those who enjoy tanking other tanks, and want to push keys. To me this is not a correct solution or approach, it is rather a design flaw! All tanks should be viable and each should come with respective tradeoffs, that is not the case now, and has not been for quite a while, since blizzard is trying to equalize everything. Sure, let every race, be every spec, no matter how ridiculous or how contradictory it is to the lore of the game… i digress.
So how about this, of the tanks i mentioned, aside from this season (cause to me TWW S1 is complete garbage) ive reached ksh on 3 or 4 tanks most seasons, on bdk, vdh, gdruid, prot warrior and bm monk, i dont enjoy or care a whole lot for pally, that said i do play it on and off seasonally, and this season, it is stupidly strong compared to other tanks. Utility, is second to none and damage is through the roof! you can do unmatched pulls more so, doing it ranged (maybe druid thru incarn can pull similar) which allows unique advantage over all other tanks, anyone recall bdk late SL? In addition to most powerful cds of any tank, ranged silence in a season of spam casters (constant range silence thru shield and shield procs), cleanse for poisons, sac, bubbles for other players, topped off with monumental damage, you have to be deranged to debate that if there is any nerfing to be done, pally needs it, not warrior. Hence the meta!
But, BUT, let me emphasize;
NO TANK SHOULD BE NERFED!!!
TWW M+ is failing due to the disastrous decision of the blizz team, to make paper tanks. If you argue for this paper tank concept, you are a troll! There is not one tank or healer, in game or online (aside maybe from blizz forums) that like this season!
Because, this philosophy not only screwed tanks, but also heals as their lives were made miserable not just by the constant unstoppable damage that goes out due to mobs spam casting, but also the multitude of aoes, curses and other crap that is unstoppable short of discord coordinated groups. Pugs, still 90% of DPS coming to an 8-12 key will not decurse or remove posion (forget below that! Sub 8 dps dont know utility or defensives, chances are decurse/cleanse etc are not even hotkeyed).
I can count on one hand (I main heal MW this season), how many times someone helped decurse in say GB, which says a lot, because healing thru the worst mobs along with tanks getting absolutely trashed is disproportionally challenging and miserable! Just yesterday i was so impressed because this real nice druid kept taking off that nasty curse between boss 2 and 3… so impressed…
So really, I wholeheartedly oppose nerfing tanks or healers for that matter! This is not a healer lobby btw.
With that out of the way, no tank, pally included should be nerfed. warrior should only be buffed without the rage nerf, BDK deathbringer should not be nerfed, seriously why the hell was it? middle of the pack damage, easiest tank to insta topple… where is the BM Monk rework??? they are complete trash!?!
There is so much work needed on multiple tanks, take a look at the BDK setup?! Really? How about spending the time on the neglected and insanely clunky specs? There are at least 2 of them, maybe 3, guess druid is getting a rework.
Anyways, i tire of this nonsense, tanks need buffs, baseline survive, streamline for those that need it (DK& Monk), give warrior due to laughable utility, give warrior massive survive and damage! For those who played back when warrior was 100% main tank, and Pally OT, those know warrior as it is the OG tank, true to its heritage, warrior needs to be the tank that can take and deal the hardest hit! every other tank has an abundance of tools (maybe short of BM monk) and can make up value thru their other utilities, mobility etc.