Prot Paladin vs feral druid

[Orixus-fairbanks]

Druid tanks arent all that underpowered in comparison to other tanks during 2.4.3 - people will play tons of paladins for the meme’s mostly for the pretty elf boiz and will be dime a dozen. A good druid tank will FLY through content and give them both a run for their money even though they gotta optimize a little bit harder than either war or paladin for their best performance

[Bonehammer-thrall]

@Orixus-fairbanks

Druid tanks arent all that underpowered in comparison to other tanks during 2.4.3

That’s my point. Druid tanks are plenty strong and yet will be far more rare. I didn’t want to say it, but I guess I will. Most people consider a bear to be boring as hell to play. Others love it. That’s what I meant by an acquired taste.

[Orixus-fairbanks]

I played whole of TBC as feral tank, i wouldnt call it any more boring than any other tank.

Playing any sort of tank is a “boring” past time to be honest XD

[Fasciae-fairbanks]

@Mikoshi-illidan

That’s basically in line with how I remember tbc playing out. To do decent threat, they had to gear for it, and that was mutually exclusive with not getting crit/crushed, which for a non bear, is a required thing for main tanking.

Thing is this time around we’re likely to get both 2.4.3 Talents and Gear, so this doesn’t actually hold for Paladins who are now starting out substantially sturdier from improved talents and also Spell Power on all their gear rather than just random select pieces. They can actually gear pretty heavily towards uncrushability at the T4 level and still have 400+ SP and very healthy Armor/Stamina levels, at least if the rating-to-stat conversions I have are still accurate.

I think this will be the most consistent “I don’t remember this, nerf plz!” comments once TBC launches, notably from Warriors. Paladins just got so much nicer in the Sunwell patch, with some changes being just 5head moments of “why wasn’t this in place from the start?”

[Marketfresh-windseeker]

@Bonehammer-thrall

A druid’s rez can only be used in combat while a pally’'s can only be used outside of combat.

This is not true. A druid has a single rez that can be used once every 30 mins, whether in combat or not.

You made some good points otherwise.

[Aewendil-caelestrasz (Aewendil)]

@Bearhands-faerlina

A pally’s threat tools are avenging shield, cons, judgements and holy shield and avenging seal, none of which scale with weapon damage other than the +spell damage on the weapon. So it’s basically just a glorified stat stick. Whereas a prot warrior’s main scaling threat abilities are his auto attacks and Devastate, which scale on weapon damage as well as Ap/crit etc.

Right, but what I mean is that typically a pally’s weapon is where almost all of his spell damage is. Both on the weapon itself and on the enchant. Since there isn’t a lot of good spell damage plate gear, and prot pallies are typically going for defensive plate gear anyway, rather than caster plate. The only spell damage will be on their weapon and their enchants.

[Downhere-thunderfury]

@Marketfresh-windseeker

Isn’t the xp nerfed significantly on vanilla mobs once tbc comes out? Like 80% or something?

I seem to remember something like this, and at one point hunters having trouble leveling new pets because of it?

I believe so, I remember trying that gimmick when TBC originally launched, it was slow.
Of course everyone from pservers will tell you differently. But hey, it was a long time ago too!

[Dreamsphere-westfall]

Bears are boring as hell now, swipe is pretty much trash, and maul is all you have. With mangle and lacerate it gets a lot more interesting.