Then we watch with popcorn in arm as the horde players fight amongst themselves. I wouldn’t doubt a civil war between blood elves and the other races
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That’s another issue too. For those few Alliance that do turn on War Mode, they’d probably feel a bit isolated. As far as I know, you can’t do WQs and other various stuff with people that are not War Mode activated. Which leads even more who might consider it to not go ahead with it for that reason.
I hope Blizz does something. Heard that Alliance are getting, like, a 30% bonus on the PTR? Could be a good start.
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Nothing against you and your opinion. I personally think its noble and honorable. Like a true Orc!
But, hearing stories about warmode has left a nasty taste in my mouth. Corpse camping, 5 or more vs. 1, Alliance being forced to turn off war mode, etc. So i’ve decided that all Horde players I come across are dead. You get the Flag of Ownership every-time I see you and as many times as I choose to make your life miserable. I’ve made it my mission to kill your kind over and over, to force you to do the exact same thing you’ve forced too many of my faction to do: disable warmode! I won’t relent because I don’t expect you will. My LFD fought the Legion for thousands of years, the Horde is just a wannabe army of misfits and rotting corpses. Just another obstacle on my way to glory. My race and class was designed for war, it’s what we do; It’s what we all do in the world of WARcraft
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Eyyy a familiar name.
I agree… not sure why people have to be jerks. One and done.
When we go a’slaying in Kul Tiras, we leave the under-120’s alone unless fired upon first (I once killed a 114 mage by accident, and I still feel bad about that), but if you’re a 120 in war mode, you’re fair game. My bones have decorated Zuldazar when y’all come world questing, too.
It’s all very genteel. ha ha
But there are jerks who have to spoil it for everyone else, and that sucks.
General rules for polite engagement are:
1.) Kill but don’t camp. Kill them once. Take your honor points. Move along.
2.) If you’re rolling in a group, leave the poor guy solo-questing a thousand miles from the graveyard alone…unless he targets you…then nuke him.
3.) Don’t be vulgar.
4.) Don’t kill toons for whom your level will appear as a skull. That’s just stupid. I don’t get it and I never will.
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Good attitude! Please do. Roll as Holy or Prot and just frustrate the hell out of all of us. xD
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Roll as Holy or Prot and just frustrate the hell out of all of us. xD
YES!
Okay, awesome story:
I was in Hellfire doing the tailoring stuff for Outland (completionist tic of mine). So, I land, and there’s an Alliance prot pally griefing the lowbies in Thrallmar and killing quest NPC’s, etc.
So I engage him. On principle.
It was an epic 10-minute Disc Priest/Prot Paladin duel. Seriously. Went on for ten solid minutes on the clock.
Neither of us could kill the other. It was hysterical. I called my husband over to advise me. I was popping cool downs and doing everything I could think of, but it could not reach completion. One or both of us needs more practice, but in the end, he got bored and left the zone.
I’m their god in Thrallmar now. /grin
Unfortunately, thiugh I am sure there are a fair amount of horde who do stick to a modicum of decency, there are just too many who dont. I tried levelling a dark irin rogue who is now in his 40s. Everytime I dropped out of stealth, a DH was there to kill me. Gave up on it after 20 minutes. Came back a few days later and this time it was an undead rogue who followed me around one shotting me for 15 minutes. Do alliance do this too? Most likely. Does it make me want to wm on and give you guys a fresh toon to farm ever again? Not a chance. Meet me in brawls, arenas, or bgs for pvp from now on.
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As much as I wish it weren’t the case, I don’t blame you guys in the least. I just think more Horde, as well as Blizzard, needs to recognize the problem.
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A house built by Blizzard’s greed and short-sighted social engineering. With plenty of help from players more interested in easy wins than fair play.
If this is why the Alliance are quitting warmode, then online gaming isn’t for them. Blizzard created tools like the flag of ownership, guild banners, etc. I personally chop Alliance up after I eliminate them and drop an Akunda’s magic fire sticks campfire upon the corpse of sliced and diced meat. If it is a void elf, I also speak Thalassian briefly if they haven’t released, and I call them a traitor, before running off.
Regarding camping, I don’t do it often. If someone turns around and engages me proper, I leave them alone (mostly) after that. If someone runs from me and wastes my time, I will actively seek and take them out repeatedly.
Eh, I don’t blame Horde for WM any more than I blame Alliance for it.
The current problem with WM is that unless you specifically want to PvP, it’s just not worth the inconvenience. Neither Azerite, War Resources or the meager amounts of Gold you get from it are worth the annoyance of your WQ’s taking twice as long because there’s a raid group of dudes farming the specific WQ you need.
So long as there is no incentive to play the less popular faction, the annoyance is just going to stack and stack and stack until all that’s left is the most popular faction.
We’ve seen this happen literally dozens of times, as the less popular faction on a PvP server deserts until the faction is something like 90/10 in favour of one faction.
It’s just that War Mode offered a sped up version of such an effect.
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Well, and one final thing here:
I’m recently returned to this game after a multiple-year hiatus while I was busy with college and just let the sub lapse. I hadn’t played since MoP.
We came back to friends who were playing horde so I rolled my priest, boosted her to 110 after about 40 levels, and then rolled goblin alts because goblins are the absolute own and I love everything about them.
Fast forward two months - My friends on horde side dropped off before the holiday, and I don’t think any are coming back until 8.2. I have other friends playing Alliance, so I rolled a dwarf shaman on their server from scratch and spent the last 10 days leveling her.
I had MUCH more grief from Alliance on my goblins than I have on my dwarf. I’ve had two negative camping encounters with horde on my dwarf. I had persistent, absolutely mind-frying grief on my goblin warrior. It was so bad that I just did exclusive dungeon leveling on my second goblin (shaman).
There is SO much discussion of alliance suffering bad horde behavior on the forums. I fully accept that I’m either missing something or my experience is just an anomaly. But I haven’t seen what you guys are talking about as a systemic problem exclusive to Horde.
I just haven’t.
I leveled all the way through Highmountain with literal crowds of Horde toons all around me, and I only had one issue with the Horde…in Thunder Totem…and it was 3 120’s there strictly to camp. They even built a campfire by my corpse like the little adolescent jerks they are…for over an hour.
But I had an Alliance 120 come after me in STV and camp me for four solid hours. He’d leave and come back. He’d fly high so I couldn’t see him and nuke me as soon as I rezzed. He followed me to two separate Horde quest hubs and killed every NPC at both on repeat in an effort to make me leave. Four hours, y’all. I finally got sick of it and my husband came to rescue me on his 120. The guy absolutely sucked at PvP.
Now, that’s just one guy, and I’m just one player, but my experience simply doesn’t line up with what the people here are saying so universally. Does it vary from server to server? Where is all this happening that I’ve leveled four toons up a bit, from both sides on two servers and don’t see any of this happening in a lopsided way?
When we go to Kul Tiras, there is a robust Alliance community that meets us and we get huge WPvP raids going in Drustvar. There are Allies on our FPs and Horde on theirs. There is all kind of assassin hunting (and the Alliance typically hide behind their guards, refusing to come out, but that’s neither here nor there).
Anyway…sorry. This is a wall of text now. I’ll stop. But I just don’t see it. PvP is fun, even if you run into one or two people who make it tedious from time to time. I’ve never been tempted to turn off war mode, but maybe that’s just me. /shrug
I only hunt free range, organic alliance, who have had a good life before their inevitable slaughter. I disapprove of alliance farms where they’re stuck in a cage and force fed welfare epics.
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Fixed that for ya.
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One of the reasons I rolled an alliance character was because of this. If you are one of the few alliance to actually turn on warmode and you want to fight, you will never be short of targets anywhere in the world.
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Was thinking about that too. 
If I weren’t pretty much shackled to the Horde due to my friends, RL sister, and my guild, I would be going Alliance to help with the imbalance, and to ensure I’m not spending 3+ hours trying to find people to kill, lol.
Didn’t horde get the welfare epics from warfronts before the ilvl requirement?
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Removing pvp servers caused this problem. I can side with people on pve realms staying with wm off because that is what they chose, but people on pvp realms, why were they on pvp realms if they roll with warmode off? ![:thinking:](https://d38bqls1q93fod.cloudfront.net/en/wow/images/emoji/twitter/thinking.png?v=6" ":thinking:")
Every pvp server minus one had 90/10 imbalances and are the reason for warmode