I predict it won’t go well. Call it a hunch.
This is true which is why with how shadowlands has been proposed the maps will be separate like Argus.
In WoD they justified gating flight because of the jumping puzzles. But to me it made no sense given that you could bypass the jumping puzzles using glider kits as an example. So why gate flying in WoD or even consider no flying forever?
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You should have taken time to actually read the articles that you posted. All of them were written AFTER WOD was active, not prior.
You kind of mess up your point that everyone knew before WOD even began when your “evidence” is of discussions and interviews given after the fact.
yeah they waited until a holiday weekend and posted the interview on a relatively unknown and obscure gaming site hoping it wouldn’t get noticed but guess what it DID and the whole world saw Watchers lie get exposed and it went viral
naturally Blizzard went and circled the wagons in order to buy time to think of a way to save face without admitting fault
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You’re killing half the entertainment by making him aware of how foolish some of the stuff he says is.
He seems to fight tooth and nail and will reach great lengths to try and force his narrative, even if half the stuff is made up or mostly untrue. I’m honestly not sure if he’s trolling or being serious.
I was here then and left for two years. So yes it had some affect as the guild I was in imploded because 75% of us left. I was rl friends with the GL and we talk to this day. Sadly I can’t get him back.
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It’s really simple, Blizzard lied to its players during wod about flight. They strung the playerbase along until the polygon interview.
The world was never built with flying in mind. It was never “play it by ear”, it was get as much money as possible and hope people no long care cause they’ve been stuck on the ground for 5 months.
WoD, however you look at it, lost half its subs in around a year. They changed course on flying and introduced a system that continued to keep people grounded unless they do all perceivable overworld content. Quite literally throwing a temper tantrum.
Wod had a million faults, the first major path was a selfie cam and Twitter integration. Can we blame flying solely for the tank of subs? No. But they did reverse course and implemented it anyway. Enough feedback/quitting must have happened to force the change.
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well if pro flight supporters didn’t get Blizzard to back peddle then surely someone has proof straight from Watchers desk stating the actual reason why they reversed it but wait of course they don’t because he NEVER wanted to do it but his bosses and the shareholders most likely pressured him to fix the screw up THEY caused or else so of course he couldn’t ignore their orders so in response we ended up getting forced to deal with his temper tantrum AKA pathfinder all because he didn’t like having to undo his original plan
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It’s not a rumor.
You’re not debunking anything.
You’re trolling.
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12 million subs to less than 5 mil right about the time of no flight announced yeah that’s not a rumor thats called a death spiral
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No, they did not.
Even if you believe you were strung along that isn’t lying.
Saying it’s coming before and during then saying it’s not is actually the definition of lying.
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Except for the fact that WoD never hit 12 million subs and the last reported numbers were roughly 5.5 million. You don’t have any of your numbers right.
May 23, 2015 no more flight EVER
https ://gamerant.com/world-of-warcraft-no-flying-mounts-warlords-draenor/
but then Jun 10, 2015
https ://www.polygon.com/2015/6/10/8761289/world-of-warcraft-warlords-of-draenor-flying-update-mmo-pc-mac-blizzard
barely 3 weeks later and Blizzard recants but I guess thats a rumor too huh?
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I’ll quote my own OP:
Indeed there was a powerful wave of backlash when players felt strung along. Of course that got Blizzard’s attention and ultimately made them lean the other direction. That’s how we got pathfinder, which doesn’t string players along, but rather gives them the guarantee they wanted.
The heart of the issue was that players felt teased at best and lied to at worst. It was the last straw for many folk who were already very unhappy with WoD.
To call what Blizzard did a 180 is an exaggeration. You got them to invent pathfinder. That’s more a 45 degree turn. Expansions will still release without flying, but Blizz won’t let players feel strung along anymore for flying.
From absolutely no flying in WOD OR in future expacs
to flying in WOD AND in future expacs.
Yeah…I would definitely call this a 180 turn.
The fact that Ian placed a punitive means of “earning”
flying is an issue, no doubt, but however you come down
on Pathfinder, going from no flying back to flying is a
move in the opposite direction.
45 degrees would probably allow us to run faster…
at a 45 degree angle. 
We have always had to reach max level to fly, so starting out
without flying is not a new concept. However, realizing how much they
could get players to do, in order to be able to fly, turned on the
light bulb over Ian’s head and the Pathfinder Carrot was born.
IMO Pathfinder is so abused at this point that it is turning a
lot of players off in a large way. Though it is no longer a flood
of players leaving, there is a constant trickle of frustrated
players who continue to leave over the issue of flight and
how Pathfinder has become a game wide investment in
all manner of accomplishments that must be completed
before flying is allowed to happen.
Some players are feeling like the game is becoming more
like a Pavlovian experiment than a game created to entertain
it’s customers/players.
When this feeling, along with the lack of communication
that Blizzard bothers to have with it’s players any more,
becomes frustrating enough, it can cause players to feel
negative enough to find it easier to just walk away.
Too many players don’t seem to care.
Sadly, Blizzard doesn’t appear to either,
so……
JMO
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You are so full of spin, your name should be Top.
Thing is, you really can’t spin the facts. “No flying in WoD and no flying going forward” from the Polygon interview is not spin-able into “They hadn’t made up their minds.” It is the very definition of “Mind has been made up.”
Yes, announcing Pathfinder @3 weeks later is a 180 from “No flying in WoD and no flying going forward.” They are opposite positions, no flight vs flight, north vs south etc.
Other than that, a huge flaw in your spin is the lack of an alternative reason (or any reason at all) for the 180 of no flight back to flight.
Overall I will give your trolling effort 4/10 for getting bites and not being subtle while not quite totally obvious.
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It absolutely was a 180. They, in black and white, said that there would never be flying in Draenor. Then, less than three weeks later, unveiled their plan to allow flying in Draenor.
Here it is again for you:
They said this on May 22, 2015:
“The world feels larger, feels more dangerous,” he says. “There’s more room for exploration, for secrets, for discovery and overall immersion in the world. At this point, we feel that outdoor gameplay in World of Warcraft is ultimately better without flying. We’re not going to be reintroducing the ability to fly in Draenor, and that’s kind of where we’re at going forward.”
Then on June 10, 2015 they released an update where they would be allowing flight in Draenor.
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also you notice Squaresoft announced flight coming to FF15 and guess which day they chose to make it happen June 10th 2015 but I guess the people would deny that as being a mere coincidence too?
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I mean, if you call them leaning one direction and then another a 180, then Blizz have been doing multiple full circles on this issue all throughout WoD.
Originally, Blizz was leaning towards adding flying in 6.1, as you remember. Plans kept changing to the point where players felt strung along and cheated. That on top of all the other problems with WoD was like a well-shaken soda bottle.
Overall though, the game still leans against flight, because the lack of flight was never so much an issue as it was to make people feel led on.