someone is always going to be the worst dps in the game, why shoudn’t it be the best healer?
Someone is always going to be the worst dps in the game why can’t it be one of the four classes in the game with 3 dps specs?
Why does priest who only have one dps spec need to be the worst? Why can’t frost? Or arcane considering they are a healer?
Why can’t survival be the worst? Why can’t affliction? Why can’t subtlety? Why can’t arms?
Why do any of the hybrids, priest shaman paladin druid have to be the worst when they only get one avenue to go down for dps? When other classes have 3 viable specs?
Also I want to state very clearly:
If the delta between the best spec and the worst spec was +/- 10% in dps I don’t think anyone would truly care if they were “last” dps.
Warriors do 70% more dps than spriests. They are the worst dps by far.
Every class already has an optimal DPS spec, and you want to force people into that optimal spec even harder by making their suboptimal spec even more suboptimal?
The best healer in the game should not also be fighting for best dps in the game.
Says who?
Who said spriest should be the best dps in the game?
Half the classes have 3 viable dps specs, just that one does some trivial amount more, and if one of them was the worst dps spec it would “force” people to play a different spec, but atleast it would be the same role.
So being “forced” to play a different spec for one of the 4 classes that have 3 dps specs is super bad, but being FORCED to play an entirely different role is okay?
Why is that okay? If you are a spriest right now you are considered literally TROLLING your raid, why is that okay?
You’re literally crying about lv25? lmao.
Your have what? 2 dots to use and nothing about specing into shadow is even helpful or useful right now?
Your argument is also bad cuz imagine if I was like: “so what if I want to play a rogue, why can’t I be a healer? People think I’m trolling when I just walk about bandaging everyone. Why should I be locked into a dps role?”
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Comparing shadow to a rogue with bandages is exactly the reason shadow needs to be buffed.
Really not making any logical sense here, no DPS spec should be considered trolling other players in the raid by bringing it.
Historically Shadow has needed level 40 to not suck. You’re 3 weeks away from p2 and level 40.
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So I imagine you won’t have any problems with shadow priests asking to be buffed from worst DPS in the game after we reach level 40 and are still the worst class in the game?
Historically shadow has needed level 40 to not suck in PvP.
Shadow in PvE is completely unviable due to the mana cost of mindflay and mindblast
Our healing is just fine. We were way too strong and efficient. It’s a noticeable reduction, but it isn’t worth throwing a fit over it.
When they nerf our only viable spec and just let shadow languish as the worst dps in the game bar none, then there is a reason to bring attention to it.
Shadow needs their talents to become effective. It has always played that way in classic. Nobody ever specced shadow until at least level 40. They can’t change the talent trees.
Posted by a druid, they’re not even trying to hide it anymore lol
Yes and if they are the worst DPS still at 40 which is very highly likely due to how expensive the mana cost of their abilities are then will at that time are priests allowed to bemoan being the worst dps and ask for changes?
“Oh well everyone knows shadow gets better at 60, nobody ever specs shadow in PvE till 60 we have to wait 2 more patches.”
i mean logs don’t lie tho bud. your opinion and whining doesn’t beat pure math. continue to not accept it idc, but you should educate yourself on the very fundamentals of the game before aruging nonsense
I honestly feel like people have forgotten so much from Vanilla about Shadow Priest…
Shadow Priest in a PvE environment is never going to contend with any caster, regardless if 40 or 60.
Firstly we still have a huge issue of mana, still not addressed hopefully a Rune in phase 2 helps or adjusting our Runes already I.E Twisted Faith making Mind Flay for free.
Secondly our threat issues, Vampiric Embrace and Mind Blast are insane aggro magnets in PvE, even doing minimal damage you’ll pull threat off Tanks, this is a well known issue.
Thirdly, our Talents for Shadow simply cannot compete vs any caster, 90% of our entire kit cannot Crit nor do we get Talents to support this, this is when literally every other caster skyrockets in dps and viability. Phase 2 will definitely be the Caster phase not for Shadow though.
Seriously Shadow in phase 2 is going to be another struggle, even our hardest hitting DoT Void Plague may be completely redundant due to the fact it’s a disease, depending on Gnomeregan and how many mechanical trash and bosses they have is going to determine how perform as Mechanical units are immune to Diseases. Same goes for later raids/phases as Elementals are also immune.
Shadow is going to need some insane Runes moving forward to be able to compete or it’s simply going to be Vanilla all over again.
Do you ever stop crying
My god
Homie doesn’t understand talent trees at all.
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I love how you guys say these things with no clue about rubes or new gear. This is not era stop saying things will be this and that based off era. Holy paladin with beacon and new itemization could be new meta, who knows
Another troll post.
Yo. We wont be lvl 60 for months. Nobody knows what sod will look like by then. Can stop this nonsense.
Okay, yes, mana costs of their spells are prohibitive. They are too high. The problem is, this is the case for all casters. That’s why rune spells are the way to go. I exclusively use rune spells for dps.