Pride in Defeat - Teldrassil and Theme

old gods lie remember the boy king, well nothing happened

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because in theory kultiras has the navy to fight the horde in the war they started.
while the horde was going to have the zandalari.
boats=win, apparently.

but if it wasn’t kultiras, whan kind of story you would have liked?.
just go straight into darkshore and ashenvale to reconquer it or something?

but then we have the problem that maybe,people would get bored of both zones easily.
specially not nelfs mains.
but i think that is clear that they do are saving that story for next expansion, like blizzard usually does for some reason.

“We don’t have enough ships.” Saurfang looked at her suspiciously as he worked through the implications. How is that an opportunity? “We can commit our ships to transport or to war, but not to both—”

Nothing happened yet, and it just told us he “sits at the masters’ table” and that he would offer us 3 lies. Didn’t say anything would come of it even after he gave them, and we don’t know what the lies are, or if it’s a literal lie or just a false statement.

Use them for war, then. We literally invaded an entire planet with portals.

THe old gods are dead, so so much for there lame prophecies not very all knowing

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The old gods are shadows, not the shadows. Girl, do you even lore? Do you think the light died with Xera or something?

yeah and? the void lords are entirely different. Speaking of the naaru, I know another prophecy that was wrong the one xera said

So the old gods being dead (but only mostly dead) doesn’t really negate any of the prophecies.

Considering the Void sees all possibilities and thinks they’re all true, it kinda stands to reason that much of what the Old Gods foresee is probably lies. Not always through any deceit on their part, but because by embracing all possible outcomes as fact they’re definitively lying to themselves most of the time before even passing those lies on to us.

It’s easy to think that when someone tells us not to heed the lies of the Old Gods, Xal’atath or the Void itself it’s because they’re trying to trick us, but really it may be as simple as being told not to trust what they say because their judgment of what’s true and what isn’t can’t be relied upon in a universe where, despite what the Void and its adherents believe, only one of the possibilities they see is in fact the actual truth.

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If they didnt have enough ships how did the Horde forces contest the Alliance in both Lordaeron and Arathi?

contest what, they lost

Your guess is as good as mine. Because, not much earlier, as Alliance I was fed this;
8.1 Anduin - “I vow we will recover Teldrassil before the war is over.”
8.3 Anduin - “The Armistice is signed! At long last the Fourth War is over.” [Cue huge case of ADD]
Yeah…,that ain’t happening now O.O

I’d even go so far as to argue this has extended to Jaina as well.
8.2 Jaina - “Press the attack as the Zandalari mourn their fallen king? That would make us no better than the Banshee.”
Yeah on it’s own this sounds like a noble line but in light of what we just accomplished in the previous xpac it’s completely ridiculous.

If this was the last war can you imagine being fed this as the player, “…oh we need to let the Burning Legion time to grieve the passing of their Dreadlords because to press our advantage makes us look like meanies.” Now I feel like I’m disrespecting all the soldiers that died in the Nazmir suicide mission and have no choice but to go along with it.

As far as the whole suicide mission thing, what really struck me as off in it is the fact that they showed so many of the forces there as being Kaldorei and having volunteered when the Darkshore warfront is still going on. Like if there was a choice between volunteering for a suicide mission in Nazmir or retaking your own land in Darkshore do you really expect the player to believe that any Night elf would choose Nazmir?

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Do you not know what the word contest means in this context?

People fight losing battles what you think the horde didnt have forces already in EK?

Sylvanas is the enemy of all, not the shadows.

The fact that the Horde was able to fight at all in such a remote location is bizarre enough.

If the Horde is so badly lacking in manpower how were they able to deploy on several battlefronts?

Even if they “lost” there were still enough to tie up the Alli forces in every front and in the end had enough forces to have a great defence that would have been almost impossible to assault alone.

The question is about logistics and transport.

which didnt amount to anything

Apparently it amounted to the Alliance needing the Horde rebels.
Lmao.

not really you didnt play 8.1 did you