Premade Vs Premade

It is considered playing with others, but it is low effort and you want to get the same rewards as those who put max effort. It’s the equivalent of you doing scholomance and wanting BWL loot to drop. This game doesn’t reward casuals, this isn’t retail.

If you get good, you get loot! Here are some screenshots of my premade of 10 whitemane players beating higher ranked full premades of 15. Now you going to tell me pug vs pug require same amount of skill as my premades of 10 beating premades of 15?

https://i.imgur.com/lcCubjF.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/MmHdgxO.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/2k5C6bJ.jpg

Yes and as I said premades are already incentivixed as they avoid two major RNG checks.

You probably never been in a 1990/2000 ab game in your life you cant lecture me on effort. I’ve been in several and it’s way more competitive then some premade with a perfect comp rolling another perfect comp that just rolls over. 400/2000 0/2000 victories? This is what you brag about?

LOL what a fool. Now you are telling me it is more skillful to barely win than to stomp on your opponents? You are too dumb to continue to reply to you sorry.

There is no “logistical difficulty” in forming a group cut the pseudo intellect garbage. There is no effort in forming a squad when 80% of the same players that are ranking group with eachother until their grind is done.

But the RNG checks dont matter in ranking. So theres no “disadvantage” of having RNG. Since your team has no RNG checks, and ina premade vs premade situation, the other team also won’t have the same RNG checks either. Therefore, there’s no advantage to premading in this case.

So the incentive to premading is to sometimes face another group of players that DO have these RNG checks. They’re called a pug. The benefit of being in a PUG is that it’s easier to get into games. But then you get the disadvantage of getting beaten by a premade.

Sounds like a fair trade

YES! lmao we spent 3x the amount of time in the game to edge out a single victory with neither side giving up. How could you possibly say you put in more effort?

learn to read… EFFORT does not equal SKILL. I already put in the “effort” to become good in PVP. The reward to my “effort” is beating mediocre players even if they have better gear or are higher ranked.

Yes there is. In your scenario, you need ten players online. As a pug, you yourself can just logon. Now, you need a good class combination. That’s already much more effort the pug already put into his play sesssion.

Then you need to actually make sure the players themselves are good.

Since you’re premading and ranking, you also need to know who your competition is. So you need to actually be quite well socially connected to your server to know who to inspect, what the brackets are, etc.

People who premade actually use consumables in BGs and they are likely to have engineering with a proper PVP spec.

so yes, premaders who’ve put considerably more effort into ranking needs to rank faster than a solo person who clicks play

Lol if this is true the definition of try hard just took on a whole new meaning.

That’s the point both teams should have the same RNG checks on them.

Effort correlates highly to skill. Not just in Wow but just in about everything

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Dodging premades is the opposite of effort and the sole reason why groups are formed is to win effortlessly and put less effort into ranking… you ever heard of stacking brackets? Multiboxers creating lvl 1s? Bracket positions being auctioned?

I’m aware. I dont think dodging premades is as effective as it used to be since they put the full-team-can-only-see-opponents changes in.

As for the brackets thing, that happens because they are try-hards, not because theyre in premades. IT just so happens that tryhards premade obviously. They’d be solo puggers if it meant it got more honor per hour

inflating the pool is normal. otherwise you may not even get a rank 14 in a week.

It may be the norm but zejung claimed that premades put in more effort to rank. That is objectively false

If everything the sweaty stompmader said was true these forums would be on fire with the tryhards themselves begging Blizz to match them or else but thats not happening so its clear from their motives that these guys are a bunch of frauds and posers.

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No, that is objectively true. The effort to organize a bunch of lvl 1s to get 15 kills takes way more time than pressing play. The time to farm enough money for consumables “just in case” and to lvl up engineering twice for your premade is almost much more than what most puggers do. Theres probably more but i’d be typing alot but im sure most ppl get the point

yep u just press queue and thats it. youy may put in 18 hours or whatever , but you dont have to organize a comp. people leave and need to be replaced, etc.

Creating a level 1 to cheese brackets for your hph meta comp takes more effort than solo queing? More time? It’s literally done to spend less time pvping. You have a really low opinion of those who pvp outside of premades.