Are these going to be in our standard rotation, or is it going to be like corruption for destro/demo?
Of course it all depends on the tuning.
In my perfect world, disc and holy would reunite with a shared core of reactive healing spells, holy with more raid AoE and disc with more single target and DPS, but in Blizzard’s world…
The priest spec is such a trainwreck I’m told the dev resigned rather than deal with it. Not that that’s the reason for him/her to leave but still, not altogether encouraging at this stage…
Yea heard same about druid class dev (pretty sure they’re the same dev), it kinda killed playing Guardian for me seeing how bad it looks atm.
Keeping up mending, renew, and atonements seems a bit much tbh. Also looking at the cap stones the only one that looks worth for disc is mind games ![]()
As they are currently, no.
If PoM becomes instant cast, you might use it as a filler spell, but it’s not going to do as much healing as it will on Holy with their mastery - and it’s not going to be worth investing points into stuff like renewed faith/benediction versus Mind Blast improvements which play a lot nicer for Disc.
As far as capstones, Mindgames, SFP and Reflective Shield are all fairly good for Disc in different scenarios. Quite a bit better than Shadow who generally don’t want the playstyle SFP forces, or Holy who really only have mindgames as a mana save with HW:Life’s terrible current tuning.
PoM is instant cast on the alpha. I don’t really see a reason why Disc wouldn’t cast it on cd as it’s basically free extra healing - especially with the Benediction talent.
Renew probably wouldn’t see much action outside of PvP or high mobility situations in PvE.
it definalty would be something to cast while moving and in between ramps renew is up for debate cuz right now its legit not worth pressing as holy.
Didn’t know this changed.
Global efficiency, really. It’s good for downtime in raid fights (we can’t spare any globals during ramps) - or in RBGs don’t get me wrong. But in a dungeon, it’s generally not worth applying PoM over applying atonement on a target or dealing damage. It might have some worth between pulls, and such, but it’s hard to sacrifice a lot of talents for it. We’d be losing a lot of potentially good talents to get benediction - which is what would make it really worth casting on CD in dungeons.
I’m kind of not interrested in PoM and renew myself.
Disc already has plenty of on the move options with pw:s (during or outside rapture) penance and sw:pain/potw which translate into a hot with attonement.
Sure, PoM is a strong option. But as a pre-pull option it’s not as interresting considering your tank should be shielded as disc.
I dunno. I’m kinda mitigated on that topic.
The whole left half of the talent tree really feels like they needed to push something live but weren’t done yet. They cut half the holy tree and glued it to the side of class tree then pushed it to alpha.
Im not sure renew will be a thing in keys tho i wouldnt rule it out. But PoM i will use purely because i love the spell. I love it dinging around. I did make a build with renew, but if renew doesnt get buffed by having atonement on you then its dead pretty much
I feel like it could stay. But I’d rather it becomes optionnal by addind a disc starting node in the class tree.
I’ve been saying this for a while bit I feel disc should get pw:shield as a base node in the class tree amd not get the holy and shadow options.
Shadowmend or twist of fate even could be interresting starting nodes for disc.
PoM sur could find some use but I’d rather it becomes a choice.
All three specs should just start at power infusion.
I think PoM could pretty easily be made interesting for Disc, it just isn’t as of the current state of the trees. If they’re firm on it being a base ability for Disc, they just need to give it extra functionality through new talents. Stuff like giving PoM a chance to apply Atonement, having SMend heals proc it, or Penance duplicate it like PtW, etc. There’s room for it, it’s just not being taken advantage of.
If you wanted to go with a more tank-focused build, the combo of 10% extra healing and 3% extra damage reduction on the tank just for shielding/renewing the tank isn’t bad when you think about it. Assuming you take both Lenience and Renewed Faith.
If Twist of Fate procs, you’d be doing 30% extra healing to the tank.
It takes 2 Purge the Wickeds healing through atonement to equal 1 Renew, so think of Renew like having 2 extra Purge the Wickeds out for whomever you cast Renew on.
PoM is a nice, efficient heal, but it’s one of those things I’d probably cast in-between packs.
I’m glad disc is getting PoM/Renew + Benediction. It’s going to fix a lot of what’s lacking in the spec.
You know, conversely starting from the top just give holy shadow word:death for free (or really I’d rather a different all-purpose spell give both to all priests for free) and make it so Shadow Mend either replaces Flash Heal including for purposes of Holy Words, or at least has the Holy Words tie-in.
Masochism becomes accessible for much-needed defensive. Tie that node down to Twist of Fate. Then holy gets another interesting path to follow in a very boring class tree that sorely needs it.
As long as PoM is instant, I could see some decent use for it as Disc. Renew…I hardly even use as Holy, so probably not very much as Disc either. If you want a HoT, just apply Atonement and get some damage out of it too.
I know that renew will be our new main atonement spreader.
You’re kinda ‘reviving’ a deprecated topic (at least for renew) since the power word update changed things up.
Is there a place to view all of the changes in Power Word: Update?