Yeah right? What is this, 2004?
Streamers/discord teach you how to play.
your joking right? raiding has always been the endgame focus. to compare it to bgs is just laughable.
Listen, I play retail and agree… the retail Boogeyman aspect of these forums is nauseating.
HOWEVER demanding epics for doing nothing is about as retail as it gets.
I mean the game throws you epics for quest rewards.
That was mearly my point. In classic they generally want you to do something semi epic to find an epic item…
Raiding isn’t “casual” to think it is shows you are out of touch. To lock crafting or runes (ie skills) behind raids is a horrible concept that runs off the casual players. I don’t mind the best gear being raid locked. I don’t believe skills (runes in SoD are skills) or crafting should be because it simply makes no sense.
Casual players should be able to craft and get all the class skills without ever stepping into a raid. To suggest otherwise is, again, out of touch with what a casual is.
Runes behind Raid: Bad. (And the Devs Acknowledged this)
BiS crafted gear recipes? If they’re casual, why do they care about having the bis crafted raid gear?
Also, if they’re THAT bent up about it, they can ask someone to use their already cleared lockout to go talk to the relevant NPCs in raid. I don’t recall any BoP raid item being needed to get the crafting quest and recipes…
If it’s ONLY bind on acquire sure. Ie you are only making that BiS item for yourself and only yourself I treat that like looting an item and have no real issue with it. If it’s crafting in general, that is to say you can only find resources in the raid to make an item that can be sold on the AH or the like I have an issue with it.
They acknowledged it, but didn’t fix it so did they really care?
Okay, at least it’s obvious you’re a troll now.
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That’s what the crafted purple bis items are.
Buy an item off of the AH. (Grime encrusted)
Talk to an NPC in raid. (Don’t need to actually kill the boss, just a cleared lockout)
Do the followup quest
Talk to the NPC again, buy the recipes you’re after.
Buy or make the mats from the AH
Craft the recipe.
What runes were behind a raid in P2?
The title is “Please stop locking crafting behind raiding”. Crafting shouldn’t be locked behind raiding. As I said, if a very specific item bound to the character that created it is, I see this as no different than just locking the item behind a raid (which happens a lot).
This will clearly surprise you, but no it’s not.
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You don’t have to raid. Just use someone’s lockout.
And if you don’t raid… top end gear isn’t for you anyways. There’s a reason most or all of the top end gear comes from RAIDING.
I know plenty of people who never step into raids and play other parts of the game just fine.
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Crafting isn’t locked behind raiding. Very specific raid-focused items are locked behind raiding and crafting gets a chance to shine making these items.
You don’t need a crafted Gnomer helmet if you’re never doing Gnomer.
Answer the question.
How does leveling teach you how to heal or tank? Where do you learn about down ranking and kiting?
that all fine and good, we call those people the minority. the majority of player raid and never step foot into a bg or world pvp.
Oh no, I am dying but don’t have enough mana to cast my max rank spell.
Oh no, that monster will kill me if it hits me, but I can run away while damaging it and win.
Leveling creates opportunities for learning experiences. It’s 60 levels of tutorial. That’s why you incrementally gain spells and abilities rather than starting at level 1 with everything your class can do.
There are multiple crafting pieces that are BIS in retail. And they require high mplus or mythic raiding to craft them at the highest ilvl. Such as my current belt and boots.
they made this change in retail. in this version of the game, ya gotta do the easy raid to get stuff. i know it’s a lame answer but it is what it is. stinks
Recipes belong in raids, that’s just not negotiable. However, the products made from raid recipes used to be BoE, which I think is better.
Ideal state for these recipes would have been that each of the professions had their own quest chain that could only be started if its respective quest item dropped off a boss as a rare drop, similar to +30 SP.
Upon completing the quest you get the recipes for making the materials and items, all of which are BoP recipes that make BoE items. Materials would need to be a bit faster to accrue, and items would only require crafted raid materials from its own profession.
There’s several reasons why this didn’t happen, yes. Still the ideal implementation, since it makes the crafted items valuable for the raids/guilds that get lucky enough to get them for a much larger window, instead of every character needing to do the grind and sink the gold for a benefit that never extends beyond their account.
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