Please no LFR in classic

They won’t be adding it. They’ve already said as much.

Now I just hope all the anti LFR crowd will head there to play and leave the rest of us that enjoy LFR alone.
One time I burned my toast, so the first thing I did afterwards was come to the forums to blame LFR.
To be fair, LFR Molten Core would have been hilarious.
Just cracks me up that so many people wanted WoW to wind up being another game with, like, 500 hardcore players and nobody else playing, without ever updating or anything.

Why don't they all just go to Dark Age of Camelot. Their last expansion was 12 years ago and only a handful of diehards play it now. They kept it hardcore for their hardcore player base. Sure, they lost 90% of their players and had to merge all the servers into one uberserver, but it did what most of the elitist WoW players have been harping about for the last decade.
11/10/2018 03:02 PMPosted by Lorissa
LFR single handily killed off guilds, social interaction, reputation mattering


Nah, that was oQueue.
11/10/2018 04:36 PMPosted by Fendrage
To be fair, LFR Molten Core would have been hilarious.
It was...remember the 10th anniversary event? They put in a LFR MC run for a mount. It was a chaotic nightmare.
11/10/2018 04:08 PMPosted by Xukon
11/10/2018 03:02 PMPosted by Lorissa
LFR single handily killed off guilds, social interaction, reputation mattering, and allowed for this disaster we call the current wow.


This is in every possible way imaginable objectively false.

You would be more accurate if you cited cross realm bgs that hit in the BC prepatch if I remember correctly.

LFR along with LFG most definitely hurt the social aspect of the game greatly. How can you even pretend like it didn't? With these systems it means you don't have to talk to people nearly as much so that hurts the social aspect. That's a literal fact. Truly boggles my mind how people can't see this.
11/02/2018 03:38 PMPosted by Lore
This is just a remnant of some leftover UI. WoW Classic will not have Dungeon Finder/Raid Finder.
reading these posts from the BfA players makes me cringe so hard

prefer if they would just delete threads instead of moving them here
11/10/2018 05:14 PMPosted by Sartura
reading these posts from the BfA players makes me cringe so hard

prefer if they would just delete threads instead of moving them here


I didn't realize this thread got moved for a moment and was wandering around in here wondering why all the topics looked weird.

*runs back to GD*
11/10/2018 05:17 PMPosted by Lull
I didn't realize this thread got moved for a moment and was wandering around in here wondering why all the topics looked weird.

*runs back to GD*

Don't leave us!
Makes me sad sometimes that the Classic servers don't have MVP users. Lull got my hopes up there :( Bye Bye little green one, you shall be missed!
11/10/2018 05:27 PMPosted by Cerrberus
Makes me sad sometimes that the Classic servers don't have MVP users. Lull got my hopes up there :( Bye Bye little green one, you shall be missed!

We might get a few once they release the game. Hopefully, we'll have a CM or two.
11/10/2018 05:04 PMPosted by Arkraider
11/10/2018 04:08 PMPosted by Xukon
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This is in every possible way imaginable objectively false.

You would be more accurate if you cited cross realm bgs that hit in the BC prepatch if I remember correctly.

LFR along with LFG most definitely hurt the social aspect of the game greatly. How can you even pretend like it didn't? With these systems it means you don't have to talk to people nearly as much so that hurts the social aspect. That's a literal fact. Truly boggles my mind how people can't see this.


LFR came along after all the things that person said had already occurred. LFR cannot cause something which had already happened to happen. Thus the statement is a lie from any objective standard.

The guild leveling system did massive damage to guilds and heavily encouraged mass spamming of people for benefits.

Social interaction was greatly damaged by cross realm battle grounds ruining a major social dynamic in servers and then was completely destroyed in wrath with LFG when you had people coming to the forums trying to redefine the term "ninja" into being something that you weren't even capable of doing in wow.

Reputations were just things you wore a tabard for well before LFR was released.

Honestly the impact of LFR is pretty minor if you ask me, it's just a expansion of a feature that already existed and not the starting point of any major shift in the community or game.
11/10/2018 04:55 PMPosted by Thundertotem
11/10/2018 04:36 PMPosted by Fendrage
To be fair, LFR Molten Core would have been hilarious.
It was...remember the 10th anniversary event? They put in a LFR MC run for a mount. It was a chaotic nightmare.


I tanked that. It wasn't fun but I got the Ragnaros weapon enchant AND a helm at the end. Totally worth at the time.
11/10/2018 04:45 PMPosted by Lull
11/10/2018 03:02 PMPosted by Lorissa
LFR single handily killed off guilds, social interaction, reputation mattering


Nah, that was oQueue.


Lot of knives were driven into guilds backs. I think the ability to earn gold from guilds was the main culprit. Even with it being restricted to guild made groups it encourages automated add ons to mass recruit using the logic that eventually people will group.

Oqueue was a different audience... more focused around people who wanted to raid at flexable times.
11/10/2018 08:36 PMPosted by Notprimal
11/10/2018 04:45 PMPosted by Lull
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Nah, that was oQueue.


Lot of knives were driven into guilds backs. I think the ability to earn gold from guilds was the main culprit. Even with it being restricted to guild made groups it encourages automated add ons to mass recruit using the logic that eventually people will group.

Oqueue was a different audience... more focused around people who wanted to raid at flexable times.


The whole gaining gold from mass invite guilds did tarnish the guild image a bit. Older and more established guilds that were actually doing content together did escape that stigma for the most part. Still, to this day, some guilds do value their reputation. Others, not so much.

When oQueue came into use is when I first noticed that community feeling disappearing. There were folks I would see every week, waiting on the same rares to spawn. We would have mount-offs and chat, just seeing the same people around was a staple. It was a thing. A thing you could count on, every week.

Then oQueue happened. The staple peeps disappeared. The mount-offs and chat stopped. You needed to have oQueue installed yourself, or you were left out of groups. You could not get anything done the way you used to, with the peeps on your own realm.

I'm glad that they introduced LFG into the standard UI, that no one without a certain addon installed was left out completely anymore. But it's still not the same as it was before oQueue happened at all.

But this has nothing to do with Classic discussion at all, and out of respect for Classic and those who love it, I will leave this particular discussion at what has been said already and not take this off topic further.