Right, every battleground favors the Horde. Enjoy your evening.
I think Iām beginning to understand why you donāt understand.
2011 was Cata? Not this map.
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ffs . the alliance then was the more populated faction by a large margin . they had more people that were pvp focused and were generally more geared than the horde.
the horde now are just as geared and more populated with more pvp focused players.
its no wonder they win.
but for them to win nearly 100% of the matches is bs.
the more pvp focused people saw the op racials and knew the pvp people would generally be going horde.
but i called all this a long time ago.
sad to see it actually happening though.
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Make AV fun again.
[Temporary] Change we can believe in.
TUBBLY 4 WARCHIEF
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Yes, itās 100% the racials that make the difference. Horde player hits their racial and all Alliance within 1 million yards instantly die.
There are clear and obvious advantages for Horde in the map, thoughā¦in both terrain and objective/spawn locations. Of course a more coordinated group could overcome those (see: premades), but that really is not and should not be the standard for determining whether the map is fair. One side should not need substantially more coordination than the other just to win literally ever.
Perhaps the 1.12 meta was more rush oriented? Which might make sense if the queues for Horde werenāt hours long then. Obviously difficult to determine now, but if Horde werenāt capping SHGY to bottle the Alliance and intercepting mid then I can see why this map might not favor them because theyād being losing a lot of the advantages the map gives them.
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you are being silly.
fact is any undead melee vs an alliance lock is a dead lock same goes for any priest going against an ud.
also any rogue and to a lesser extent warrior going against an orc is at a good handicap .
now small scale this can be overcome but when you multiply that by a huge bunch of horde consisting of at least 50% orcs and undead well you have half the enemy team unable to be cced reliably.
and ya it matters quite alot.
but you knew that and just had to post the steaming pile of a post just for funsies.
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Oh, so THATās why i died in UBRS.
CURSE YOU HORDE PVPERS!!
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If the racials are sooo overpowered why was Alliance dominating AV with premades? Oh, right, communication and coordination. Totally forgot about those!
the only ones that were ādominatingā was the best geared and highest rank people with all the riding speed enchants and items and most likely the most skilled.
of course they would ādominateā horde pugs.
you are too trapped in your own echo chamber to see the blatant truth of the matter.
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Right, got it. So you havenāt figured out how to pvp in WoW.
Xecksi, just stop replying to himā¦he has nothing better to do because he canāt get into AV for another couple hours
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no im actually decent at pvp.
but try again with the attacks. you cant attack my ideas can you?
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You assuming Iām Horde? I love the internet.
im not . im just talking about the obvious truth and you cant deny my words other than to attack me and not my ideas.
but you do you i guess.
feel free to post whatever you want. ill be on my way now.
gl being wrong.
What obvious truth? That people would rather complain than figure out how to win? Most people knew this was going to be a disaster from the beginning and the fact is all the ranking up isnāt going to mean too much in a few weeks when people are wearing BWL gear.
I find the constant complaint about imbalance, bias, unfairness, etc. etc. incredibly amusing because every person complaining about it has the ability to do something about it. You donāt even have to reroll or join once of the derp Discord premades.
If youāre not having fun thereās really not much point in playing parts of the game. Blizzard isnāt going to change the maps, they arenāt going to remove cross realms, they arenāt going to magically create faction transfers. It is what it is, why get flustered? Classic isnāt perfect, vanilla never was, plenty of things were borked. People are way too obsessed with this game. Relax, have fun, yes some things suck so have fun with it.
The lower tier premades actually werenāt that great and would lose reasonably often. Still way better than the current meta, but they were essentially just PUGs with voice comms, epic mounts and a penalty for AFKāing. The imbalanced map definitely played a role in this (such as the ability of the Horde to intercept Alliance before they can even enter the path behind SFGY and the relative difficulty of holding IBGY to 20 horde spawning at a time in the nearby cave).
The ones that actually were dominating had stringent requirements and would only take people with full mount speed gear, certain caliber of gear, elite parses, and consumables (FAPs, sappers, etc.). They were also ensuring that they had a minimum number of tanks, dps and healers before entering BGs. What they were doing is not something that a PUG could accomplish with mere coordination.
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Ikrā¦its sugar and spergs.
Often times the horde are mindless lemmings rushing forward. We suggest Galv D and they just ride off and then complain when Galv dies.
Humanityā¦
Right, clearly when the horde kills 20 alliance who donāt dismount but instead try to ride straight past to galv but get wipedā¦ every single gameā¦ has nothing to do with their loss.
I mean, how are you supposed to pvp when you donāt even get off your mount.
The amount of arrows I get from their towers during pvp where we still kill them over and over is crazy high.
Itās not about a few seconds on the bridge, itās the fact that horde has to sit in a 90 minute queue to play, so literally only the most dedicated pvp players will even still try. And starting location doesnāt matter when the horde sits at 200hks and the highest alliance player sits at around 40.
They die, then die again, and again, and again, and again. How can you expect to when any game when half your team is dead at any given time.
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