That’s fair.
Here’s the thing. When they did Classic Era, they cloned all the servers. That’s the only reason there were copies of characters for both Era and the Progression server. They’re not doing that with Wrath. Therefore once Cata launches, any opportunity of using existing characters in a Wrath server is gone.
So from that point forward the only option for Wrath Era is a fresh server. Are people okay with that?
They don’t do wrath era, it saves me $30 a month and I go play wrath era servers else where. It all good.
The funny part is, they said no to classic servers too. Not only did bring them back, but made them the only permanent servers. You can’t make this stuff up.
“You think you do, but you don’t”…lol
No, you won’t. And Blizz knows it.
Like you know me…lol. I stopped playing for several years, until classic came out. I left for rift. No fan of some of the changes cata brought. Throw the faster cadence of getting through, does not fit my casual ability to play, even if I wanted to give it another try. I will just cut my losses and move on… again.
It isn’t a necro zaalg. And those who report me, are just afraid of hearing my opinion. And are afraid of what I might say. And are trying to just cut out my tongue.
Like I am just going to stop speaking, or typing out my opinions. So keep saying I am necroing threads. You just don’t like my opinion. Not going to make me stop talking and typing about it.
Keep necroing subs. You’re still subbed to WoW to do it. So what does Blizz care.
If you pull up a thread that’s about two weeks or more old it’s necro-ing. That’s the very definition of necroing. If there was natural support for wrath era no one would need to do that. There would be sufficient support to keep them alive with out pulling them back from death.
No one is afraid of hearing your opinion. Everything was said on the topic in the first thread on it. From then on all we’re doing is repeating ourselves.
I mean, we would stop repeating if blizz would give a definite bloody answer. So far, they haven’t said anything.
All they have said is that they are looking at the feedback. That was stated on wowhead. As well as saying that there wasn’t a definite yes or no yet. They need to answer us already. Like yes we looked at the feedback. We say no to wrath classic servers ever. We are never doing them. Or a, we have looked at the feedback. We are getting wrath classic servers as permanent options.
And necroing threads, is about as illegal as driving 75 in a 65 mph highway. Which everyone does. But I will repeat. Not necroing the threads. And if they want us to stop. They need to answer us already. Look at the feedback. And give a yes or no answer. Otherwise, people are going to keep asking and posting about it. Plain and simple.
Like only soft peoplereport people for supposedly necroing threads. Those people act like they are so legal. Like they aren’t. They need to quit acting like they are on the good side of everything. Because they aren’t.
They never will unless they change their mind. They never responded to the rdf threads for over a a year until they announced we will get it. They never discussed the token until it was introduced. They said nothing in the threads about multiboxing until they mostly banned it.
I have never read the tos. I look at what happens on the forum and see what the tos is in action. And blizzard has deleted necoed threads in the past. Even during the rdf fight when someone necroed about two dozen dead threads in an hour. A day later they were all gone. Perhaps the rule is don’t necro a multiple number of threads all at once. An occasional necro is beneath their notice. You have never done that since there isn’t enough wrath era threads to necro two dozen of them. That should tell you something about the support your issue has compared to the support rdf had.
It has nothing to do with being soft. This is just a way you’re using to insult people. It’s like calling liberals snowflakes which they are not. Humans are a predator species and we’re all willing to fight for our views, with words or with violence. It’s in our blood, our biology. Some people are more bothered by clutter and repetition than others. I’m less bothered by it so I don’t report necroed threads. I very rarely report anything.
I honestly just don’t see why it would be so hard to have a pvp, pve and rp server for WOTLK.
To a generation of players WOTLK is the pinnacle of the game.
Let’s just stay vocal guys, when Cata starts dropping off Blizzard will start to notice.
750 people aren’t enough because they’ll be making 2 servers minimum per realm if they were to make WotLK Era servers.
That IS a crime though??
I’m just going to quit again when cata drops and come back in 10 years when they start all over again and do Classic v2, lol
I mean, 750 wrath classic players would be enough for one server in my op.
And yes, necroing threads is a crime. I am not necroing threads. But both driving 10 miles over the speed limit and necroing threads are pretty mild crimes in my op. And the people who report people for that at the civilian level, are just karens. Plain and simple. It is just tattle telling on those people. Like you don’t report people for committing mild crimes. That is just me though. Some people just act like it’s their job to police the world.
I don’t know how else to explain it. I mean, you have folks reporting you simply because they don’t agree with your opinion, even though you didn’t do anything wrong. That is far worse in my op. Those people definitely deserve action. Like the brutosaur thread. All because there is no downvote button to show that you disagree. Abusing the report feature as a disagree feature is pretty bad.
But keeping my opinion out there, and bringing up my opinion hear and there on a couple threads every couple of weeks. I don’t really see the big problem with that. I don’t see the major crime with that. Not spamming a billion comments and threads either.
Just posting every so often, like hey blizzard, wrath classic servers. Do them. And I don’t see the harm in that unless I was spamming endlessly millions of times a day. A couple times a week shouldn’t really be a big deal.
And in response to feywaif. Look at the rdf threads. Are they around anymore. No. Because blizzard answered them. And when you look at the time line up until they answered, it was an ongoing thread debate with threads going on constantly the whole time. And the wrath classic debate, is going to be the exact same thing. On a much smaller scale. Simply because there isn’t as many people who care about it.
But regardless of that, there are people who do care about getting permanent wrath classic servers done. It might be a small amount. But we do exist. At the end of the day, it comes down to picking battles carefully. And this is one of those battles that I feel obligated to pick. I mean, going forward. And repeating the history of 2010 with cataclysm expansion, and NOT providing a permanent version of wrath classic. I just think that is a stupid idea. And unfortunately, not alot of other people seem to think that. But I will keep the train rolling.
Cataclysm litteraly split and divided wow players on the future of the game. Some people liked the old version. Others liked the new version. And I just don’t see the point in doing that a second time. And regardless of how much of us who want wrath classic around or not are here right now, I still should be allowed to post about it. People trying to silence my account for supposed forum spamming. Like quit being such a karen.
I mean, it’s one thing to necro threads so much and so often to the point where it becomes a problem. Which is why the threads necroed for the rdf were deleted. I still don’t think I am necroing anyways. But whatever. And doing it like once or twice a week to like 2 threads every week just to try and keep them relevant. And new permanent wrath classic threads pop up all the time. Heck, some people are just conspiracy theorissts. Thinking I created alts to do all these extra threads. No. Mktaar is the only toon I have posted on about permanent wrath classic realms. But clearly, there is some support for wrath classic. Otherwise, we wouldn’t even be talking about this.
But I mean, if I am necroing threads. It’s pretty mild either way. So many things we shouldn’t be doing in life. And this is one of those very mild ones. Just trying to rally support for something I give a rip about.
I mean, people who want wrath classic servers aren’t going to just stop posting about it because a bunch of naysayers say not to. Like any other topic of debate of discussion.
Now, in my op, blizz could easily just charge an entry fee for each toon cloned. As well as charging a sub fee 15 bucks or so for those 750 players or whatever who want permanent wrath classic. 15 bucks times 750 players. That’s alot of money. And one or 2 servers.
Now, I just did the math on that. That is 11,250 bucks a month. Which is 135,000 a year. And not counting the wow tokens and all that. They could also up the charge on that to. I don’t care. Funny thing, 135,000 a year for me, that sounds like an awesome salary to have all by myself for one person. Shows how greedy blizzard and america at large is. The idea has to make at least 10 million a month lol otherwise it don’t count.
I mean, if someone doesn’t want that 135 k a year, I will gladly take it. Now I also know it isn’t just one person who would create and relegate classic wrath servers. So it would be split up. But just kind of mind blowing how 135 k a year for a person don’t mean jack all anymore. At the same time, blizzard did do vanilla classic as a permanent option. And it is still up even though it didn’t do so well. And they still make trillions of dollars a second towards their investors.
So even if wrath classic did fail as a permanent option. It isn’t like blizzard as a company would be no more. So frustrating. Blizz used to do things for the fans. Now, they do things for the shareholders. Who cares what the consumers want anymore. The actual communities that built blizzard up are long gone now I guess.
I mean, If I was the top dog of blizzard. This Idea would be done. Not for the money or the success of the idea. Or whether it failed or not. But for the fans. The select fans who wanted it anyways. I know that I and alot of others are making trillions of dollars a second. And I would do that one idea for those people. Even though I lnow it wouldn’t be the greatest. Surely blizzard could spare some lost cash here and there. That’s why I like people like AVGN. He is actually a normal influencer. Unlike most of our society now.
Not only that, blizzard fires people randomly because they feel like it. Just straight up greed. You got places like amazon. So many problems jeff bezos could solve with is 200 billion dollars. 200 billion dollars all in one dudes pocket. And he never really redistributes it to anyone or anywhere. But it’s america. What did I expect. Selflessness is dead. Like If I was the big dog of blizzard. I would be looking out for the small ones and actual real life problems to.
And truth being told. There might actually be more support for wrath classic than is currently being shown. Just not enough people have realized it yet. I think alot of players gave up on blizzard during bc with boosts. And then again with no bc classic servers to. So there might actually be more.
Oh well. Done rambling for now. Will keep voicing my opinions until blizz answers. Just how it goes. People who want me to stop. Don’t know what to tell you. Wrath classic as a permanent option was the only thing I wanted from blizzard from the beginning of classic wow. It’s the one thing I want. I will make the decision to quit or not when that time comes and the decision is made.
when does cata release roughly?
1-2 months.
Yes it’s enough for one server but Blizzard won’t make just one server
You haven’t watched many speeding PSA’s have you? Makes sense though, I don’t recall any coming out of the states that really sticks, or any for that matter. Here’s one and honestly, it surprises me that you’re so nonchalant about driving that much over the speed limit. If something happens you’re screwed.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q9fms5He5bM
Okay you went on a massive tangent that doesn’t mean much after this.
Calling someone “karens” is just a way to circumvent discussion by dismissing and insulting the person without dealing with the issues. I’m not surprised that you would choose that tactic. I read the news and think deeply about the issues and imo half the time the so called “Karen” is right. And the moment someone name calls in any way the credibility of what they say goes down in my eyes.
It’s fine if you and a few others want to continue making these threads. I’m just pointing out that given that there “isn’t as many people who care about it” you’re odds of success are lessened.
Well you can call it a split, but it was an 80% 20% split. Cata maintained 80% of it’s subs for 2 years.
You’re not thinking this through like a business would. Blizzard is not looking at how many people might play on a wrath server but how many would quit if there was no wrath server. Let’s hypothesize that half of those playing wrath era are mostly playing retail and only spend a few months a year playing wrath during down times in retail. Would any of them quit if there was not wrath era? Likely no, they are retail subs not wrath era subs. What if 30% play both Cata and wrath era. How many would quit if there was no wrath? Perhaps some would and some would not. Those who would not quit are Cata subs, even though they sometimes play wrath era.
You need to stop thinking that every one who would play wrath era is a wrath era sub. The standard blizzard uses is not how populated the wrath era server might be but how many subs would be lost if there is no wrath era server.
I quite frankly, agree with everything you said mktaar. We live in a crazy world now.
I think permanent wrath classic servers as a permanent option would be a good thing for those who want them. It would be fun.
Wall of text crits for 10k damage. tl;dr.
Yep I bet they did. I will also be willing to bet that you only read short story books with pictures to. Harry potter books might be too complicated for you. Those novels have massive walls of text all over them.
I never understood this argument. The correct response is, hey. I don’t agree with what you are saying sir. Like I don’t know what to tell you if you can’t bother to read anything longer than a twitter or facebook insert.