are you boys really that delusional or just trolling?
cant tell
lol how are u always here just spouting nonsense
ALWAYS
Warrior is basically tied for 2nd best dps class in pvp with mage. Rogue is obviously king of pvp in tbc but warrior is still insanely good and arguably more frustrating to deal with than anything else because of rng mace stun nonsense.
i would say locks are far ahead warriors as well, but at least was closer to the truth
rogues, locks and mages are S tier, warrior is on a tier of its own, but the first ones are above
At glad ranking warlocks have fallen off a cliff in season 3. At 2200+ they are behind warrior and close to mage but still behind.
Basically rogue > all at every tier. Mage > warrior for purely r1 rating. Mage = warrior for glad rating (mage actually worse than warr in EU it seems). Warrior > mage at 2200+. Nothing below matters much but Iād guess warrior is above mage there too because the class is extremely straightforward and has a much lower skill floor.
Is it though? What class beside mage does a warrior not have the advantage over?
Locks are very good, obviously, but a warrior beats a lock. Theyāre virtually unfearable and the warriorās dmg will outpace the lockās dots.
In arena rogue is obviously better. Since you seem to be talking 1v1 though:
In 1v1 against rogue you are basically praying for a stun resist or you get stun ā rupture ā shiv kited forever if there is any LoS.
In arena its not uncommon to see warr/druid vs priest/rogue where the druid and rogue both refuse to unstealth and Iāve seen the priest frequently win that matchup (forcing the druid to unstealth).
I would assume feral should generally win 1v1 if they play properly.
Dumb matchup but resto druid probably wins 1v1 if there is any LoS.
this game is all about tools, since they are still unique and not across the board
rogues fulfill warriors roles and do better in all of them.
to make a comp i say you need magic dispel,purge,ranged kick, slows, mortal strike and if possible 2 dif drs
warriors are just inferior in offering their toolkit
I never said 1v1. They have limitations like any other class, mainly no self-healing. I assumed we were speaking in the context of arena. With a healer those limitations are negligible. Letās use a resto Druid for example. RD/warr against RD/rogue or RD/lock, the warrior would certainly have the advantage. The rogueās utility will be mitigated substantially due to bleeds making stealth nearly impossible to maintain. A warrior could spit on a lock pet and kill it. Then your healer can drink as many times as he wants while you skillstring the lock.
No changes in the class are coming. I donāt understand why you canāt just admit they have advantages. Iām not saying anything derogatory.
MS, pummel, intercept, fear, stun (a lot lol), snare (root if talented). Warrriors have a lot of what you say they need. 
kick,shadowstep,blind, shiv with crippling
what am i missing?
Thats my pointā¦ they have different names but accomplish the same thing.
yea, thats what im saying as well
thing is, those are better
In the context of arena warrior is clearly worse than rogue and at a similar level as mage. Theyāre very strong and shouldnāt be whining about other classes imo, but its not like theyāre gods that can only be stopped by a mage.
You donāt need every tool to be powerful, you can specialize in a couple of things and just be so strong at those things that you can dominate. Warrior damage, peels, and rng nonsense is so strong that they sit basically tied at 2nd best dps class in pvp.
Mage is a class that is a free kill
Yeah, letās nerf everything until the game is a boring, bland experience where nothing is exciting or exhilarating or impactful. I feel like thereās a game that already fits that mold.
what is exciting about getting rooted for 3 drs that dont DR with your other novas by a rank 1 spell?
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