They literally said in the blizzcon panel that although debuff limits were a technical limitation, that they were re implementing it.
Also, the default backpack had been a technical limitation for years, and the reasoning for that was the amount of spaghetti code that the backpack was covered by, so they were unable to change the backpack limit without changing a LOT of code.
Youâre clueless.
Didnât read your text wall but they should not add ANYTHING that was not there in vanilla ! Thatâs the entire point!!! Itâs just mind boggling how you peeps canât understand that simple concept
This post is about requesting a system that was there in vanilla. Spell batching was a technical limitation during vanilla, as was debuff slots, the backpack slot limit, and many other things. I am requesting a system that was part of the game from vanilla until the end of MoP.
Iâm glad that you also want to be a part of an authentic vanilla experience that the devs have committed themselves to, but please read before commenting in contrary to something your comment appears to be in support of.
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@OP, I agree. I never knew what spell batching was but looking at the explanations, I feel it would be a great disservice to NOT have it in Classicâ˘. To those opposed, just because it was used because of limitations does not make it a bug or exploit. It was put into the game intentionally and should be there for Classicâ˘.
To say that it was an exploit would be to say that 16 debuff slots is an exploit. This was very well put, and I thank you for your contribution.
I would also like to add for people that didnât read my initial post; this was a feature until the launch of warlords of draenor.
Whether you think it was random or skill based is irrelevant.
It was in Vanilla. It contributed relatively significantly toward how PvP felt.
Thanks to the OP for bringing it up, its a point that hasnt had much discussion, but is something I think was iconic to the experience.
I donât know the amount of effort necessary to re-implement in the modern client, but this is an issue that definitely deserves consideration.
Argument is mootâŚthere will be no batching as theyâve decided to work backwards from the current game instead of the old version of vanilla they hadâŚ
They donât even have to work that far back, this mechanic was removed in 2014 with the launch of warlords of draenor.
Itâs not a mechanic that was removed, itâs server behavior that was fixed to behave consistently and better.
It was consistent at 0.4 seconds/tick. That is not inconsistent. The gameplay that resulted from the âupgradeâ was also worse. There is a reason wow pvp has hit itâs peak a very long time ago.
Just because something works well on paper, does not mean it works well in practice. You can look at many philosophies/practices throughout history that prove this supposition.
It wasnât consistent though, that tick was a server side tick not a tick based on when you cast your spell. The blue actually explained quite well how that resulted in anywhere from almost none to up to 400MS lag, entirely randomly depending on when you happened to fall into the queue.
Just because something works well on paper, does not mean it works well in practice. You can look at many philosophies/practices throughout history that prove this supposition.
Right, the batching system sounded okay on paper but in practice it was pretty bad, hence why it was fixed.
You still, after so many forum threads and posts contradicting you, do not understand this sytem.
This is what we call a propositional fallacy.
Itâs not my fault you canât understand how the system worked even after a blue very clearly explained it and explained exactly why it lead to such erratic behavior.
Iâm going to break this down for you in terms you can understand;
This sytem was in vanilla, and as such should be in classic.
Just because you cannot understand the system does not mean it didnât work and was an rng system that could not benefit anybody.
Just because you do not possess the mechanical or psychological skill required to correctly make use of this system, despite it being a technical limitation of itâs time, does not mean that it has no merit in the recreation in the game that we all love.
Please stop posting your small minded, contrarian, misinformed opinions.
Server pop caps (in terms of players online) was actually limited by design and not by tech.
This is correct. What I was referring to about the information given at blizzcon (Press Q&A i think?) is that while this was not, and is still not, a techincal limitation, it is flexible. That being, that the server pop, or other parameters of the server are able to be changed. For example, the processing rate of the server.
A server may be able to be edited so that the batch processing of player input could be at 0.4 seconds, thus recreating the combat experience of classic WoW.
As a side note, it was very interesting to hear from an interview from Mark Kern, that smaller realm pops were actually less financially feasible for them at the time, but they stuck with it anyway due to a design philosophy pushed by (insert dev name here, I canât remember his name).
Nah. Not required.
Please refer to the final section of the dev watercooler titled âlooking aheadâ.
âAdditional improvements will include modern anti-cheat/botting detection, customer service and BattleâŚnet integration, and similar conveniences that do not affect the core gameplay experience.â
This system impacts the core gameplay experience.
It impacts PvP, and itâs inclusion would make PvP players (and Classic players on this forum in general) happy, yes?