Casters have been terrorizing the population for far too long. It’s about time something can absolutely ruin their day like they have been to everyone else. Nothing makes me happier than a sad mage.
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BM is wayyyyy too good into all the specs in the game. Also extremely easy to play so you have hordes of fotm rerollers abusing it.
It needs gutted asap.
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BM makes everyone sad, not just mages.
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Black arrow is whats op about it tbh.
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At this point, I think BM is the only thing keeping shadowplay down unfortunately.
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Nope, not just that.
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The mans has a point, I for one welcome our BM hunter overlords.
Semi spammable ability that can crit over a mil? If anything that’s BMs 1 button.
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Yes that’s exactly the only reason. Black Arrow is proccing way too often during Call of the Wild and critting for 1mil. Most of my shuffles Black Arrow is like 25-28% of my total damage. This isn’t the pets that is crushing people and applying unhealable pressure, it’s the back to back to back 700-800k non-crit (1mil crit) Black Arrows that can be spammed with fast globals due to BM stacking Haste.
The most op part of bm are the pets that are the size of raid bosses.
Yea I dunno how people are getting these Kunchongs so big.
Feeding them gnome warriors, extra moist with tears.
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BM doesn’t have any downsides in its current tuning and has zero counter play. It deserves to be toned down significantly.
They also can’t be punished, too tanky.
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The reason they are tanky is because there is currently no downside to doing maximum damage. This allows a BM to literally sit still while popping a wall and still pushing out more pressure than the Melee who are sitting ontop of them. Nerfing damage with Black Arrow and procs of it will remove that pressure and force the BM to actually kite around and play much safer due to not being able to win the match before their Defensive CDs are cycled.
I had something written out but there’s not really a point; you won’t agree pointless argument.
Agree to disagree imo.
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That’s fine, this is just my experience as a BM. I’m pretty biased when it comes to BM Defensives and Hunter Defensives in general because I don’t want to go back to DF S1 where BM getting trained down every round by Melee cleaves with the only tools to respond being a Tar Trap root (Which every single melee can get out of now with minimal effort), Scatter (Gap closers will just be used to immediately get back on the BM), a single garbage Wall ability, and Turtle Shell. This was cancer in DF early seasons for Survival and BM. MM wasn’t as bad to deal with this…because ding ding ding…they did oppressive damage.
For sure, wasn’t used to the extra button, once I started spamming it, my damage went through the roof.
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It really is insane that BM Black Arrows are hitting for almost as much as MM and you get 100x more Procs for some reason. It makes no logical sense considering Kill Shot as BM used to hit like paper compared to MM and Survival Kill Shot.
Yeah makes no sense, getting beast cleave from dark hound for free doesnt help either, free damage all over. I mean the fact you dont even have to have it talented is op.