Raider IO is fine. You’re just bad.
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It’s a good judge of character. If you’ve never timed above a 4 then I’m not inviting you to my 10. It’s as simple as that. Some of us want to push our keys.
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The forums have been a joke for a long time since they moved them to a new server. It’s just part of the subscription now, like Classic WoW.
You scream into a hole and get swarmed by Trolls, Trips, Tricks and Trogolodytes.
Besides, the Devs are more active on Twitter anyway.
Raider IO is good. It’s the same as PvP rating. Earn a high rating then you get into high keys.
The biggest pro of it is it helps non-meta classes get into groups by having a high score.
If you’ve ever gone from running high keys, where everyone knows how to use their full class kit, to doing Pug heroics or something where few players even know they have something called an “interupt”, you will see right away why the game needs IO.
Yes people can pay for carries but that’s not as common as people think, and you can always look at their IO/Armory in more detail.
I mean, judging by your achievements your most prestigious achievement of all time was timing all 10’s during season 4. So far this season you’ve ran a couple 2’s, and are currently 2/10 N.
Do you really think you’re qualified to be making decisions? You had a bad run, get over it, it’s new content people are going to make mistakes(including you).
Personally I think my AotC achievements for Azshara and Nzoth are more significant than doing everything on 10, but with my somewhat limited playtime available I’m perfectly fine living in the +10-15 range once I’m geared enough.
That’s a combination of me not particularly liking the expansion, and the people I typically run with having some IRL stuff going on lately.
I was not the one who selected the healer in question, it was my key but one of the guys in our group runs dungeons and pushes keys a lot more than the rest of us, he typically does the leading and selects PUGs on the rare occasions that we need one.
I am over it, this happened months ago (if you read it carefully you’ll see that it was a Freehold key), I was only using it as an example of why I feel IO is severely overrated as a tool.
I was not talking about new content, I was talking about a run that happened late in BfA.
Raider IO will not lose relevance as long as raiding and M+ still remain as the best pathways to end-game gear.
if my fury warrior with terrible io can find groups, there’s really no excuses 
worst dps - bad io - finds groups.
you gotta blame something else than io.
Yep. If the OP didn’t want anyone to comment on her thread, then why open it in the first place? This is a discussion forum, not a personal chat.
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The real problem isn’t Raider.io, it is M+. That system has no business being shoehorned into a casual MMO like WoW. The more they double down on e-sport style content the more it divides their player base.
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The problem is not that raiderio is gatekeeping,
the problem is that rio is bad.
It doesn’t show most important metrics: ability to interrupt and avoid unnecessary damage.
So waiting from blizzard to introduce their own score system which would asses players based on that statistics.
Also there could be LFG for M+ where you can apply for maximum completed level + 1.
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Or they could abandon timed speed running dungeon content and switch to hardmodes for dungeons. This would kill their metrics for dungeons though, so it probably isn’t going to happen.
They hit the jack pot with M+, people will run the same dungeons, for the same gear for years. It is a homerun for a company that clearly isn’t devoting the same resources they once did.
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I’m confused on how a tool only used in the pug world, and something which can be completely ignored by guilds, is somehow ruining something.
You know that tool when you are not carried through the dungeons by your guild.
Raider IO working exactly as intended. Highlights at 11.
The tool is fine and working as intended imo. The OP is just frustrated with M+ itself. Like many casual players, they want to be part of the community, but not everyone has the skillset, time or physical twitch skills for a system like M+. M+ alienates players and creates massive toxicity in the pug world.
It flies in the face of the original vision of what made WoW popular in the first place.
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Removing RIO will not stop gatekeeping. People will still try to pick the best applicant for the job, just like you would do when hiring somebody IRL.
But there is a solution! Get into (almost) every PuG you sign up for today! How? Tank.
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Sure, and I can see this point. Raider IO isn’t the issue though, and I agree with your comment that it’s fine and working as intended. Like I said, it’s a tool for the pug world. The counter to raider io is simply finding a guild, and proper social networking.
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So all the people disagreeing with OP, he actually has a point. Rio doesn’t sift the good from the bad, it does mix them in. With as simple as leaving a mythic key early to not record to rio.
It actually creates confusion.
Here’s why. So you want to invite the best you can for your key, right? But Johnny no thumbs spends more time leaving M+ keys when they’re failing. Does this make Johnny no thumbs a good player? No, he has just manipulated his rio score.
Rio a piece of cr-christmas that doesn’t belong in WoW.