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  1. Get off my lawn.

I don’t RP much (at all?) at this point, but the atmosphere on this server is great. I think at this point I mostly just chase after unsuspecting Hordies and try to /emote them into wordless conversations with me.

I’ve got some physical issues I deal with IRL. Azeroth can be ingested in small bites, So it’s a manageable gaming experience. I think it’s one reason I’ve stuck around as long as I have. It’s a great form of physical therapy for working on reflexes, TBI, etc. That’s largely how I got into it to start with.

I enjoy reading other people’s profiles and what not. There’s a lot of very creative people on here and I hope they unleash that creativity on the world at large and not just WoW.

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I don’t even know why I bother paying those assassins at this point.

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There is a great guild for Horde-side players that I’m planning to join on Sef, my Belf rogue!
https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/h-amicitiae-vera-illuminat-recruiting-older-players/408041/84

I suggest checking them out, great vibes from their GM (just haven’t had timing line up to join as I’m a late nighter and Sef is only 52 anyhow!)

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But the Lion King only came out 26 years ago! :thinking:

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I’m 28, my partner is 29, and my RP homies range from mid 20s to early 50s. If anything, I’d say that that the RP community is aging: I haven’t met anyone younger than early 20s. Sint is the lone one under 20 in a thread with 87 posts and that about summarizes my experience. Even on RuneScape, the RP community is mid 20s on the young end of things.

Sure, I might not be able to RP for 14 hrs a day anymore because I have uni, but I’m not less interested in it as a passtime than I was in my teens.

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I guess my petty quibble with this thread’s framing is that, when you “grow out of” something, that implies it’s puerile. RP is too big and sprawling a thing to deserve that label, IMO.

Anyway, I let my kid run around one of the capitals and he was irritated to see someone on a spider moun because “It’s not Halloween, it’s December”. Friggin’ RP police over here.

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I’m on the cusp of Millenial and Gen X depending on your source of truth for all that stuff. My interest in RP hasn’t changed but it also has been pretty low-key since forever. I think it’s been better these past few weeks than it has been on WoW for me in years though!

I dug tabletop stuff when it was at an actual table. RP gaming is great in that environment. It’s more of an outlet for acting than writing if you’re a player – where the DM is the storyteller, and we help that be a good story by truly being IC in terms of making choices as our character (their traits and flaws and all that).

I don’t believe WoW, or any MMO, is well equipped to suit RP. On the player level, it’s mostly about how/why characters are created and the in-game tools/support we have for RP (basically none without addons). On the game level, it’s the story and, again, the in-game tools/support we have for RP.

RP, as an outlet for storytelling, is often missing critical components of a good story. Bashing together plot points with tabletop elements in a digital environment falls short, in no small part due to these missing pieces. Good stories are driven by the character(s) as they transform from a personification of an anti-theme to a theme. If you’re missing theme, you’re missing the soul of story… so if it feels hollow, that’s because it is.

What doesn’t help is that WoW’s story is also missing these important pieces.

So the type of RP I’m finding to be great is walkup stuff, which returns me to it being a bit of character acting – but also writing because it’s text! The big picture, in this case, exists in my mind. The encounters are essentially vignettes (and boy have they been entertaining lately).

I think you hit plateaus with any hobby or skill. Moving away from stuff is often based on temperament, free time, other interests popping up etc.

For me, RP has always taken a backseat to gaming itself and was never my outlet for writing – probably makes it easy to maintain that level of interest. Stuff like music has become more of a lifestyle than a hobby, so I guess some things stay light or fade away while others just intensify.

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Off topic. Would you recommend Scrivener as a product to others? Skillset / mindset requirement or advice? I learned about this program through a completely different course unrelated to writing. It’s piqued my curiosity, but seems so obscure that I have no idea who to ask or where to look for input on this software.

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I didn’t start Rping until I was 40! Don’t see what all the fuse is about. I guess there is still this idea that after you hit a certain age you get all serious and do “old people” things. I don’t know how to be an age, I just know how to be me. I think you hit a age where you start to realize that numbers are just numbers and it’s how you feel that counts. And I still feel early to mid 30’s, so I’m just gonna run with that not worry about the rest.

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This made me laugh out loud.

This is a good point and I think this is why I lean more towards roll events because RP isn’t my actual writing outlet.

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Scrivener is fantastic. Just the ability to move chapters and scenes around at-will is a great feature, but it also exports into most formats (including e-readers) for self-publishers, allows tons of sticky note options, and basically lets you build everything you need piece-by-piece for a novel. My only real complaint is that it doesn’t export to Adobe-related things, so you may get some weird formatting issues when you export to, say, Word and then try to import that to InDesign.

I don’t use any other writing software anymore. If you’ve ever heard of Final Draft for screenwriting, it is basically that but for novels and longer works. There’s really no skillset or mindset you need; you’re still just writing your story. But when you need to find things, move bits around, or get in-depth with notes or breakdowns, it really shines. It goes on sale for like $30 every year, and it’s by far the biggest QoL improvement for my writing workflow I’ve ever had.

e: oh, and Snapshots. OH MY GOD Snapshots are soooo good.

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Didn’t you get the memo? Once you turn 40, you aren’t allowed to do anything but watch, “Everybody loves Raymond” reruns.

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i missed the crappy telling women their choice to not have kids is wrong and how amazing and life changing it is part of this thread I’m very upset

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Did you pick the right lion king?

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I don’t think anyone said that about childless people. I think someone was talking about how having children made them, personally, become more selfless- which is pretty common amongst parents. It doesn’t mean they think people without kids are incapable of those things and it isn’t really fair to them to paint them in that light because they didn’t say it.

I don’t have kids and I understood what they meant. I don’t think they meant any offense and they said as much afterwards.

I can understand why it is a sensitive subject. But I also think it is important to look at actual intent and not just percieved offense.

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I think women have had enough of even slight commentary on their choice to have kids even if it isn’t explicit and even if that wasn’t the intent. Why can’t women just say they don’t want kids without someone interjecting their uninvited or unwanted opinion on the matter?

Like that person kinda took stuff the wrong way for sure but I can’t really imagine a reason to comment on it besides “I respect your decision and choice” and move on.

Maybe it’s an over reaction or maybe it’s a defensiveness to years and years of misogynistic commentary on their very personal choices that have literally nothing to do with anyone else besides themselves.

But moving on

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I won’t presume to speak about what it’s like for women. I have no idea what it is to deal with the crap you guys have to put up with on a daily basis.

I just think in this specific instance, that wasn’t what they said and it isn’t fair to paint them as someone who did. And again, they immediately apologized for any offense and acknowledged their wording could have been better. But I think it is clear they were speaking of their own experiences and not trying to bash on anyone else’s.

I am sorry that you have had to deal with other people being ignorant in the past. The world would be a lot better if people just minded their own business.

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Yeah, but if you are a woman of a certain age, you get that “when you gonna have kids, you know your time is running out” speech. I’ve heard it many times along with “your are just being selfish.” It’s really a subject people need to tread carefully around.

In my case, I didn’t think I was mommy material. Not every woman is, and it’s important to recognize that. When I thought I had myself together enough to try… we just couldn’t. It’s a very sensitive subject for me, and I get really tired of dealing with the assumption or implication that I was too selfish to have kids. ANd when I read that particular post, I read it as implying that people without kids are selfish. ANd I nearly posted a snarky reply but just let it drop instead.

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Like I said, I’m not a woman so I won’t say I get what that’s like exactly. But as a 35yo unmarried man, I can relate to some of it. My sisters both have children and families and I’m happy for them. But it gets super old to hear about “when are you going to?” "You’re next!’ Or my favorite, “running out of time!”

Like hey Aunt Linda, I’m sorry you couldn’t figure out how condoms work but Im good for now, thanks.

Please don’t think I am invalidating either of your experiences. But looking at what was actually said, I also don’t think it is fair to paint that player along those same lines, that’s all. If they had I’d be right there with both of you.

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I think there’s a lesson to be learned, which I think they have learned, that even if your intent is pure it can still cause pain and hurt and oppression and racism and bigotry and homophobia and all of the evil. Just because you didn’t mean to be doesn’t absolve you of that.

I appreciate your take and I kinda agree with it to the extent I don’t think they meant any harm, but harm was clearly caused and they deserve to be held accountable. Their apology will be accepted or not by the harmed party but I’ll make my silly little joke and dance my silly little dance all the same.

:dancer:

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