No, but we look at which classes were behind ranged hunter in the last 2 weeks, vs what is behind them in the last 24 hours and we see that all the ones that were behind ranged hunter and got buffs are now ahead of them.
So we can conclude that those buffs put them ahead of hunter. Especially considering all of them scale better than ranged hunter. Even frost mages will likely pass ranged hunter with 0 buffs by the end of the phase.
They intentionally left it a dumpster fire to force melee hunter to be played. I wouldnt consider that fine. Especially because hunter is the only pure dps class left. Its ranged option should at least be middle of the pack. Melee is only strong right now because they are doing the same thing they did in legion. Make melee hunter ridiculous damage to try and force hunters (who chose hunter to be RANGED DPS) to play melee.
The drama is exhausting lol. People simply need to play what they think is fun instead of meta/fotm chasing trying to become the next big wow streamer.
Ranged Hunter brings Kings buffs, most of the fights favor ranged, and your holy bible of WCL front page is pretty misleading without context. Melee Hunter is over tuned which means most competent players are going to play it over the lower DPS ranged variant which makes the Ranged look much worse than it actually is because all of the good players arenāt playing it right now.
The only spec behind ranged hunter right now is frost mages.
And this isnt from the front page of data.
Im comparing last 2 weeks data to last days data, and recent buffs to classes.
Frost mage scales better than ranged hunter. So by the end of the phase unless something is done it will be dead last.
Melee hunter also brings it.
And ranged hunter is still right at the bottom.
I looked at it with context in mind. Im not just looking at the front page as i stated above. Also keep in mind melee hunter scales far better than ranged at this time. Raptor strike is not normalized for its damage like most other instant melee attacks are. Add in the dual wield runes effects and windfury and it will almost scale twice as effectively as ranged hunter. And thats with lion. If they are SV lone wolf they scale more than 2 times as effectively as the best ranged option which would also be using lone wolf, but doesnt get as much value out of it.
Lmao meanwhile thereās me, Hunter player for 20 years as well.
SoD is the FIRST TIME I can be a duel-wield Melee Hunter like Rexxar.
Itās been 20 years, Iāve waited forever for this.
Legion Survival was great, but they ruined it once BfA came along, they added ranged green eagles you throw at your opponents, itās thematically a mess and I canāt play it because of that.
1H melee hunter Iāve waited too long for, honestly thought it was never going to happen.
So, Iām a happy camper in SoD. Could care less about damage.
What isnt fine is a repeat of legion where melee is viable at the cost of ranged being essentially the worst spec in the game. By the end of p2 it will be dead last due to scaling if nothing is done. And it just gets worse in p3 and p4.
Thats fine and all until it keeps you out of raid.
There is a reason there are very few frost mage parses. Partially because of better options and Partially because they have difficulty eveb getting into the raid.
I am having the most fun with hunter I ever have. Viper means I actually hit my buttons and trap launcher is just a treat and I feel like I can do stuff in combat more than just standing and shooting
However if all you play is spreadsheet simulator than I could see it.
Ranged hunter has very poor dps this phase, but itās still more useful than melee unless you are going for the parses (especially on last boss). But yeha it needs a buff.
Legion SV was the most ridiculously complex spec Iāve ever played, there was so many spinning plates that it took your whole focus just to get decent dps and left none for boss mechanics. I wanted to play melee hunter but it was simply too much and went MM instead.
I think you meant end of Shadowlands were bomb spam was OP in MM+.
Survival is not a meme spec, itās always been in game and itās always revolved around meleeā¦ itās just never been viable until nowā¦ let it go
This is ignores that the vast majority of guilds and pugs are gatekeepers - if you arenāt meta, or doing the necessary damage/mechanics, youāre not going to go. Doesnāt matter how āeasyā the content may be. This is the expectations of the community writ large after 20 years of that being the mentality fostered: if you arenāt meta, you donāt exist.
See thatās the problem. A lot of you play the game from a third party website instead of just having fun. Someone has to be top someone has to be bottom why do you have to be at the top to have fun? Play what you enjoy SoD is just not that serious. I have come to realize its not the game thatās bad its the community.
Hear hear! And if top dps is what matters to youā¦ there is nothing stopping you from creating that class right now. When i see another class that looks fun im not going to complain about that classā¦ i am going to be rolling that class and lvling up.