So this is your issue? You don’t like that a spec that prioritizes talent points to and abilities that buff its pet’s damage relies on its pet for damage?
In what context dude? We don’t see hunters topping DPS in all the raids, and we don’t see people stacking hunters in raids.
Are people stacking hunters in the level 25 BG bracket? Yeah… have they literally always in 19 or 29 twink brackets? Maybe!
Is Scorpid Poison busted? Maybe!
Can you simply cleanse it in PVP with Anti-Venom? Maybe?
If not, then what? You also complain about Lightning Breath. There are 2 pets (Scorpid, Cloud Serpent) that have special attacks. All the others have some sort of buff, stealth, shield wall, etc.
Should we just remove those pets, because someone on the forums is upset? Maybe! Personally, I don’t think it’s a good idea to cater to people who just whine, but we can look at the data, and maybe do something.
Let’s assume that Anti-Venom doesn’t work, well then you have what? An issue with PvP? Give druids access to Abolish Poison at 25, instead of 26. Does this solve that “problem?” No?
What is it exactly that you want? Precisely? Is there a legitimate issue with hunter pets? Do the logs confirm this?
It’s everyone’s issue and why the threads won’t stop till they are fixed.
In the context the game is being ruined by broken Hunters. Guess we should all roll Hunters and abuse it till it’s fixed. More and more players are just rerolling Hunters because why play another Class? You can’t and the more Hunter’s there are means you need to reroll.
This should make perfect sense.
It does more damage than Dot classes. There is no maybe. They are doing 3-4 times the correct damage and need to be fixed.
Scorpid poison fixed and reduced by 90% Pets damage overall reduced by 75%. Then make Pets be about utility and providing buffs for the Hunter/Raid.
Pets should not be doing more total Dps than other Classes. This isn’t even a debatable conversation. Just fix what is broken before the game is ruined completely.
The focus of this thread is fixing broken Hunter pets.
Both actually. Some Classes are underperforming but before we start balancing, the outliers breaking the game need to be fixed first.
Key word here is fixed not nerfed. This is a design issue and the Devs need to figure it out.
It’s not about me it’s whether the Devs will take action and fix the game so people can enjoy it. Before we have 1 dominant broken class ruining the game for others.
I mean, if they start catering to people (like you) who seem to legitimately be acting victimized, then idk what will happen! I sincerely hope though that you find a way to enjoy the game.
If that means nerfing hunter pets, then hey… I’d happily play a hunter that’s parsing below a level 25 DPS priest. I honestly don’t care. I’m just enjoying the hell out of this game and I certainly don’t have an emotional attachment of my enjoyment pegged to how much damage hunter pets do.
I believe that you believe this is what’s happening, but it doesn’t seem to be the experience that I’m having.
warriors with the raid 2h are instantly deleting people with auto attack crits in pvp. crits over 700 damage. on auto attacks!!
and warriors are the top dps overall and on every boss fight in all logs submitted this weekend. by a MASSIVE margin. all other classes are just getting smoked. hell warrior tanks are doing 160-190 dps.
Who’s a warrior and what does this have to do with broken Pets?
It’s not looking good. Might be time to call it till next phase if it looks better.
This happens all the time. When something is broken players will abuse that ruining gameplay for other Classes. Then it becomes if you can’t beat em…Join em mentality. Creating more of the same problem. Which then makes more players either leave cause they can’t play what they want or reroll.
I’m gonna let you guys in on a little secret. Be careful not to tell anyone.
You ready?
Anti-venom that’s crafted by first aid removes all poisons and doesn’t require first aid to use.
Shhh. It’s a secret.
We don’t have an alternative functioning build in SoM. BM is the only functional rune we have on our hands, no one runs anything else because everything else is horrendous. Hunters have 2 runes that are used almost always, BM and Aspect of the Lion. Not because they’re too good, because the alternatives are too bad. Would you run a build that does no damage at all? And you’re saying hunters have to play that because boo hoo the pets are killing people in PvP? And unlike those classes that the pets are outdamaging in this very unbalanced level 25 phase, Hunters aren’t going to scale up with more SP gear and more spells in the next phase. Don’t worry, pets will be worse at 40.
The only pure DPS class needs to be a middling DPS because they have a pet, DUH. Us bad players are just hiding behind an AI, nothing like the amazingly skilled warriors who press their 3 buttons with great precision.
Been in 3 full raid clears now, and my pet is not beating anyone competent in dps, and poison is only about 27% of my total damage. Is that a bit high? Yes, a bit. I hope they just tweak it instead of doing a knee-jerk reaction like they did earlier this week.
If they nerf or tune hunter pets they will have to compensate hunters in other areas…
If they nerf pets and buff shots, stings etc, then people will just complain that the mean hunter killed them and they never even got a chance to get close.
Hunters are not a fun class to play against just by design, so whenever they are strong (or even properly balanced) people will cry about them.
I do agree, for pve and pvp, the pets need to be looked at, but they will need to be buffed in other areas to compensate. Honestly I think 99% of hunters would be just fine with that.
