Finally managed to post on the forums, but I had to level a toon on midnight.
My friend posted earlier about me getting permanently banned for RMT.
Ticket : US108379603
I got banned last week for abuse of economy, and recieved a reply to my appeal today, I can’t submit appeals anymore eventho i’ve only submitted one.
And the wording had me thinking LFG would qualify as “in game tool”, but I now understand you can only advertise through the Services channel. ( I only had the right to type in LFG tool for a couple of days before i got banned, I had just set up my authenticator )
But I don’t see how that qualifies as RMT anyway, and from what I’ve seen most people get an ingame mute or a 1 week ban for that… I have not sold or bought golds, I farm 95% of my gold by enchanting at org and have enchanted thousands of players over the past few months.
Anyway, if I actually got banned for advertising in the LFG I guess that’s fine, but the fact that its permanent and that I was only able to appeal once seems a bit harsh to me…
So if you were actually permanently banned, it had nothing to do with advertising in LFG, that would be a 14 day penalty unless you had a huge history of violations on your account.
Your only option to appeal is via the appeal system. There are no other ways to appeal, including posting here.
A Blue might be able to provide some insight, but it more often than not confirms that the account action was valid. They have no say or influence on appeals.
There are no bots automatically banning anyone and Blizzard doesn’t use AI. Each case is manually reviewed by a person from the proper department. When you receive a response, it’s chosen from a template so that they don’t have to waste time typing an individual response every time. If they were using AI, ticket response times wouldn’t be taking as long as they are.
Any report in chat would result in a chat penalty if it broke the rules and if it got reported, that would either be a silence, or a 2 week suspension unless they person had a significant history of breaking the rules, chat penalties rarely and almost never result in permanent bans.
I do understand that, but from what I’ve seen from digging on the forum you only get permabanned with RMT as the reason if you sell gold / services for real world money, which I have never done
There is nothing that says someone won’t get a permanent ban from any violation. That is wholly Blizzard’s discretion. Even chat and name violations can earn a permanent ban, usually from accumulation of many violations, but it can be done first offense if the violation is egregious enough.
Well, yes you did. You said above you were advertising in LFG. That is part of RMT.
Reading other responses, I see where a bit of the confusion lies…
This is inaccurate. RMT often results in permanent bans, and that includes advertising in LFG. Advertising in LFG is not considered a “chat” violation. It’s considered a RMT violation.
In the end, we cannot tell anyone what length a punishment is going to be. There are general guidelines, but every situation is unique and there’s no one size fits all. There is no “you only get banned for this”.
If you sold your enchanting service directly to someone who paid you in illicit gold, then you are guilty of receiving stolen gold, even if you had no way of knowing it was stolen. Blizzard doesn’t care. They are going after this RMT scourge hard and anyone associated is getting caught in the net. The only safe way to sell enchants is through the Auction House.
Can’t sell enchants through the AH on TBC, only way to get your gear enchanted if you aren’t enchanter yourself is to trade an enchanter and put your item in “do not trade”, and most people tip for that.
While its true that advertising can count as RMT, of all the posts we have seen about people advertising services in LFG, typically tank services, most are given a silence or standard suspension, and not are not permanently banned.
There are to many factors we don’t know, but I think we make an educated guess that there was more behind this then simply advertising in the wrong channel which while would have gotten the account actioned, would likely be a less severe penalty especially if only the first or second offense.
If they “tip” you with ill-gotten gold, then you risk getting banned. It’s been like that for quite some time now. I would not buy or sell anything that doesn’t go through the AH. WoW is not the social game it once was.
It doesn’t matter what happens in other cases. We don’t know all the details of those situations compared to this one.
There is no default punishment for any violation. In fact, saying stuff like this is what leads to these situations: a player thinking a punishment will be X, and it’s more. It shifts focus from the true problem (a rules violation) and focusing on what the poster perceives as unfair treatment.
All actions are at Blizzard’s discretion. While they likely strive to provide consistency, we don’t know what those consistencies are because we don’t know many, many things about the situation. Only what the poster chooses to tell us, and I think you understand the issue there.