That’s asinine, you are putting in the term entitled… LFR is there for PEOPLE. Not the entitled, not the hardcore, but people who just want to spend more TIME in this content.
Stop refuting something that quite clearly is something you don’t want to accept except this delusional premise that LFR is for the entitled which is a fallacy.
Funny situation we’re in, isn’t it? LFR came about because of the massive onboarding of casuals that joined due to the popularity of Wrath and its massive advertising campaign. Wrath babies changed the game this way. The same folks that made everyone’s favorite expansion the best “because it was popular” are also the ones responsible for your enjoyment decline.
I’m surprised nobody brought up subs yet. That’s bound to happen in this sort of discussion. But imagine if subs did go back up to what people think is “successful”, anyone ever wonder how the game would change again to meet this new generation of MMO players?
Probably wouldn’t be something you enjoy. ![:stuck_out_tongue:](https://d38bqls1q93fod.cloudfront.net/en/wow/images/emoji/twitter/stuck_out_tongue.png?v=6" ":stuck_out_tongue:")
I hope they make the mage tower just as hard if not harder when I come back to a state of the game that isn’t complete garbage. Knowing blizzards current track record I’ll have to wait at least 8 months to a year.
Like I said, it’s my opinion. I feel like Blizzard realized the opened Pandora’s box with LFR in WoD. This is why we saw no tier and no good trinkets in LFR during the expansion. WoD was their last chance to get rid of LFR and unfortunately it wasn’t a good expansion so they couldn’t make the jump to deleting it in Legion. I actually believe that if WoD would have been good LFR would have been either gone or severely reworked for Legion. Now unfortunately we are stuck with it and all the design choices that come with that group they are aiming the game at.
Hope they do too.
Not something that interests me but , hell yeah for those that want it.
WoD was their last chance to get rid of LFR and unfortunately it wasn’t a good expansion so they couldn’t make the jump to deleting it in Legion
I dont know how many times this needs to be said
At no time has Blizzard EVER discussed, referred to, alluded to or otherwise hinted at the concept of LFRs removal.
Nor would they ever. It has a purpose and a reason for being. That has not changed since incept.
It. is. not. happening.
I agree with you that it’s not going away. I feel like WoD was a feeler though to see if they made the LFR rewards proportionate to the effort needed if it would push people to Normal+. I think because the expansion as a whole was bad they never got this data and decided to not take any risks.
The ONLY constant about LFR is the plethora of “remove it” threads that started the day LFR started.
It is old, it is boring, you and the others arent saying anything that hasnt been said and debunked a thousand times over.
Youd think by now people would have figured that out.
You think you do, but you don’t. 
I’m more in the boat of rework LFR rather than remove it. There are plenty of other MMO’s that have a good raid queue system that actually requires effort and communication. I think if you’re going to kill an end boss, it should at least require an ounce of effort. Maybe that’s elitist, idk.
You have normal, heroic, mythic. Those aren’t issues. Of ‘‘requiring effort’’. If LFR is too easy, go try normal, and so on and so forth, the people endulging in LFR perfectly are aware of that and are content with LFR.
You think you do, but you don’t
You see, as humans we are inclined to take the path of least resistance. In this case that is LFR. How many people can you find that have 10 or more full clears of LFR? There aren’t many because a decent amount of people clear it once and unsub until the next raid. That’s not good for the health of the game either. If we required a bit more effort (for everything in the game, not just LFR) people would feel more fulfillment and stay subbed longer.
Having highly relevant quest chains and dungeons at end game is outdated and worthless? You are what is wrong with the current game. It sounds like you hate WoW, no wonder you like BfA.
Why would you waste someone else’s time to TROLL their raid? You are one of the reasons the game is going to crap…
Hahahahahaha you think people who don’t like LFR have been debunked even once. Oh god that’s a good one! You’re only parse this tier is a 4 on heroic g’huun. What does your AotC mean again?
Yet we cleared it.
By the way, if you have a comment to make, try less personal attacks. People tend to listen more then.
Yes , but with raiding if someone wants to Raid, they dive in and go Raid. You can have all the systems in the World to try to swing the tide in your favor but at the end of the day… some people don’t feel like doing several clears of LFR. They play the game their way. It’s what made an MMO like Warcraft pretty cool.
We’ve had this argument for LFR since it’s inception, Warcraft is still going and I’m sure Warcraft will be fine if we don’t remove LFR or make it harder. It’s definitely not a system that if removed will bring back 9 million subscribers. And making it hard/harder will have a pretty big opposite effect.
Warcraft launch experiences growth, right now we are at an age for the game that it’s really just staying above water thanks to silly little systems like LFR that entertains a lot of folks. And more power to them. It doesn’t affect me.
You did 3k DPS. You sure earned that AotC and that proves you know your stuff about the raid. You never cease to amaze.
View must be nice from that glass house of yours.