It’s part of the world-building.
It’s not a “hold-over”, it’s an intentional part of world-building they chose to carry over. They ACTIVELY CHOSE to make the Defias Brotherhood plot about the workers being abused and discarded. Ask a lot of people and that’s one of the better plots in the game.
World of Warcraft isn’t and shouldn’t be a democracy.
I mean if you have to be lazy about it or you need the “big threat” to exist, you could always have someone pulling the strings.
Final Fantasy Tactics had amazing story-telling. Ultimately you killed a bunch of demons who wanted to end the world, but along the way you had an attempted military revolution from veterans who were refused their pay at the end of the war (but who resorted to terrorism when their attack on the capital failed), you had the Church trying to seize power from the nobles, and you had political in-fighting from various different families.
Unfortunately I don’t know how much that stuff would resonate with the modern WoW base though. I feel like there’s a ton of anime andies who want the story to revolve around specific characters having anime-style cry sessions etc.
One of the M+ discords I was on was like 70% weebs and I’m just like… I guess this is what the Retail playerbase is now. It’s not really Western centric story-telling anymore about gritty affairs of nations and the struggles of entire socio-economic classes.
Anywho…
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Honestly this is what I really wish we’d have more of. It doesn’t have to be grimdark like Warhammer. Nor does it need to be Tolkien in its depth. But it’s all really vague and ungrounded and it doesn’t feel good. There’s nothing substantial in how anything works. Nor in the consequences of events. Nothing.
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I think part of what hurt DF for me is that I kept asking myself “who are these people I’m fighting”?
What even are “Primalists”? Back in the day enemy forces would have backstories about the formation of their order, where they draw personnel, bases of operation and so forth. Primalists meanwhile have as many guys as it takes to create drama at any given moment wherever the action happens to be. It’s silly.
They’re basically Putties. Fodder for any action scene.
There’s a reason people enjoyed the Defias, the Scarlet Brotherhood, and so forth. They felt rooted in the world, not just NPCs coming out of a monster closet.
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Except we’re currently under a long-needed truce where both factions aren’t killing eachother. Standard soldiers are working around differences and trying to…figure out how to move forward. Same goes for their citizens. Nobody wants more bloodshed anymore.
Just a few champions do apparently, and some nationalists.
True. But primalists and dragons are trying to kill both.
Soon void octopi and sexy elf ladies are going to try to kill us.
Before now, space goats and green vampires were trying to kill everyone.
Even before that, everyone was trying to kill stuff that was already dead.
Conflict has shaped Azeroth. Non-specific to faction war. It’s gonna continue to shape Azeroth because it’d be awfully boring to play an MMO where all you do is argue workers rights lmfao.
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I think you underestimate what I mean when I want to fight for workers rights.
I want to fulfill the fantasy of what I want to do irl.
I want to be one of the goblins who goes down to the drudges working the oil fields, and rally them together to address their boss.
If he doesn’t comply with their demands, I want to beat him to death. Together. We go around talking to various folks to work out their differences and get a Union set up. We go to the Horde council and go project by project, taking power from those who don’t deserve it, and ending them if they resist. All of it given back to the workers that have been essentially enslaved this whole time.
Same goes for all the other abusive workplaces in WoW. Happier, safer workers means smoother, more productive production. It means Azeroth gets what it needs faster when we’re all on the same page. Workers could get better combat training/gear and gizmos to help defend themselves. We could be instrumental in doing some awesome badass stuff.
Workers rights aren’t all about pushing paper. It’s Revolution.
I will now disengage with this thread.
Get some therapy.
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Nah peons deserve the hitting stick. Azeroth isnt real life we dont need your cringe commie fantasy
Looks like Defias Brotherhood and the VanCleef family found a new follower
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Therapy can’t erase the workplace abuse friend. Every racist, sexist, abusive and manipulative manager that you see mirrored in WoW does in fact exist :3 However there is a simple solution to a bad boss. You know as well as I do that they deserve it.
When you’re told to “get over it” when you tell your boss your workplace injury means you won’t be able to get around as fast as you want - when you’re starving two weeks out of every month to make rent while they make six figures - tell me the thought doesn’t cross your mind.
Also I mean, hey - better this than the folks who just wanna beat up your average workers for being lazy :3
It’s been slowly creeping toward more and more cringe since Garrosh was sent through court rather than just being killed.
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I mean, wasn’t the Horde or Alliance’s choice. The Pandaren don’t do things like we do - and they’re the ones that suffered the most from his actions. They got to figure things out. It makes sense in canon.
Don’t worry, with technology advancing, soon the peons and peasants will have smart phones and that will make them work twice as hard.
Normal people are a myth. There is only CHAMPION
AZEROTH NEEDS YE! Ough, can’t ye hear her cries? DO SOMETHING CHAMPION, and ease her pain…
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