Yeah I can see how you can see it that way and that’s the problem, how do you define “win”? And of course someone can explain how winning should be viewed not as a finish but as a completion of something but that will just be their view on it. The foundation of my stance on P2W is that there’s no definitive agreed upon definition so it’ll just be an endless pointless argument like every P2W thread is similar to my view on “alt friendly”
The same can’t also be done with P2W.