Pay-To-Win in Era is a problem and ruins game play

Which is why I get so upset in ERA atm… I farm herbs and rare BoE’s, recipes and the highest amount of gold I’ve had was 35k. People bidding 50-100k for just a basic set piece in AQ40 or a trinket/ring is just demoralizing.

When classic first started you felt amazing having like 500 gold in the first month. Now you have to get gold cap to be on the scale. Sure inflation is a thing, but there has to be some kind of answer to it.

50k+ isn’t unusual for certain trinkets. But for set pieces that’s a lot. I’ve heard the RMT is even more rampant on Alliance side.

Both sides can have those outliers that just bid crazy amounts but in my experience after reporting those people I get a juicy blizz mail saying action was taken shortly after the raid ends.

It still sucks they took the gear but oh well, they’ll probably buy more gold on a new account or just buy a whole full naxx account to troll people on.

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I get those all the time from reporting bots. Problem is it’s like trying to take down a colony of bees by killing one at a time.

From the years of doing this since 2019 release the real player reports are quicker bans.

Bots or cheaters take like a few months it seems. Someone bids 200k on a kell weapon or really anything, report them and watch for the mail within 8 hours.

Report a fly hacker and dont report anyone for months until you see the mail. I only did this once as it took 6 months 2 weeks and 3 days for the mail/action report mail to come in. Disgusting.

Most tier gear is going for near min bid these days, some rare trinkets and naxx items are more expensive, but you can get full pre-naxx bis for way under 100k which is pretty cheap if you consider that you get at least 1-5k payout every run, and it takes over 20 runs for all the gear to even drop.

However, if one assumes that they deserve rare items the first time they see them drop on every toon, they may find themselves disappointed in Era.

200k for a KT weapon is very cheap (especially for thc / gressil). Basically every naxx carry has more than 200k gold and most are still after their KT weapons.

I did not pay a cent other than my wow sub and I leveled just fine and now am a bis (nax) cat dps Druid.

Aside the guild i was i dont really remember anybody not going full meta in classic era for most raids lol.

Thirdly GDKP makes the game P2W entirely there is no denying from it at any given honest argument.
You farmed 10.000 gold in 40 hours played? nice. I swiped 50k. We go to the raid, they put me vs you as buyers i get everything. You get gold right? cool.
Next raid people swipe even more gold, affecting all the economy itself so the pots you get in fact have less and less value due inflation aside few oscilations. Reallistically it can take months upon months to actually beat a swiper for a single upgrade, and they always calling out and searching for said swipers.
And if a guild isnt doing gdkp its progressing at a much lower pace to the point it’s more benefical to find buyers and bring your recruits to get goldpots so they can swipe some gear for the times your guild cant raid to upgrade them, which may be many, know why? you gotta beat inflation and you only can beat it by gdkping

Sure you can create an MS>OS/SR guild which wil be the equivalent at this enviroment as dpsing patchwerk naked by going completely sub-optimal and hurting the guild over time because you either making money in gdkp or spending time grinding for gold as a chinese farmer of old during unhealthy amount of hours trying to beat the inflation it causes just to play a videogame.

I mean its the major reason the game suffers from growing, if they dont fix it in gw3, gg.

It’s always amazing to me that people don’t want to be vetted in order to join end game content. Do you just want people to take your word for it? I legitimately don’t understand the though process here. You’re asking a group of strangers to spend time with you playing end game content but you think it’s toxic if that group of players wants proof that you’re not completely braindead.

Lol…

I mean good for you, but lol.

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That’s not really Classic, don’t pretend it’s a good substitute.

Incorrect.

RMT makes the game pay to win. If you’re coming from WotLK or retail then yes, GDKP is actually pay to win because of the WoW token.

But in the case of Classic Era, it is not pay to win because there is no official means of RMT and making 3rd party RMT transactions carries the risk of a ban.

I guess it depends on what you want, and how much you care about it.

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how does a game token help you win?

I am convinced nobody in this thread knows what p2w means

Since you don’t really win in an MMO, I’ll just call it pay to advance. Which it is.

Step 1: buy WoW token with real $

Step 2: sell WoW token for gold

Step 3: enter GDKP

Step 4: outbid everyone for gear

If that’s not pay to win I don’t know what is.

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Do you?​​​

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What I mean by meta slaves is guilds who demand FULL world buffs. Meanwhile these same guilds wipe on trash or 2nd boss in most cases making the buffs void.

My friend, I’m going to explain the economics here because it’s clear you don’t know what you are talking about.

So a token was $25 and sold for ~5000g. In WoTLK GDKP runs in ICC bis items were selling anywhere 150-200k.

Want to do the math there? It’s faster to just join GDKP runs. I was getting 40-50k payouts and you would have to buy 10 tokens to get a single payout on a single character. If you wanted to outbid me you would have to spend thousands. Nobody is doing that. You’re just not good at WoW and want a target.